Tim Flannery’s (removed) thoughts on instant replay

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Since we’re all talking about the new MLB replay system, I’d like to share Tim Flannery’s late night facebook rant that has since been deleted, but I liked it so much I took a couple screenshots of it. I really respect this man and his passion for the game (and admire his lifestyle and outlook on life, as well).

Written around 11:30 pm, after the game. Excuse his grammar – his passion more than makes up for his writing but I’ll clean it up a little.

Replay in the sacred game stinks. Tonight, Boch was out on the field 4 times and doesn’t even argue, you wait around for someone in New York no one knows to make a long distance decision, who is he? Is he paid by gamblers? Then because you challenge the crew are you are wrong, the guy behind the plate screws you on not only bassl and strikes, but on the game deciding play at the plate because he knows you’re out of challenges…you lose rhythm, timing, the beauty, the human element, until the other side of the human element comes out….how about if the umpires are bad, you fire them. That’s what I deal with in my job on the field. Sorry, I am venting. Review them all or none of them, or home runs or plays at the plate only… I love Tony LaRussa, Joe Torre, and the gods of the game but when I retire, or get fired, I’m going surfing, fishing, taking my airstream up to Alaska with my lady. I’m not going to find a way to put my fingerprints on a sacred game that has worked fine for over 130 years… as Turko says – “it ain’t right”


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471 Responses to Tim Flannery’s (removed) thoughts on instant replay

  1. unca_chuck says:

    Hah! Bingo. It poretty much echoes what I said an hour ago. Good shit, Chico.

  2. xoot says:

    I agree with Flannery. Replay review is an abomination, for everything except checking to see if a ball called fair was actually foul or if a ball called in play (e.g., off the wall) was actually a HR. Otherwise, it corrodes the game.

  3. Chico says:

    He hit a grand slam here, imo. I’m glad I snapped the screenshots because I had a feeling this would be taken down, and it was.

  4. sandy32koufax says:

    I wonder if Flannery is in trouble with MLB over his rant or if he took it down because he was told to or face consequences?

    Replay, this form of it at least, is not the way to make officiating games better, as we saw last night. That anyone is even discussing “using a replay challenge should be a strategic move by the mgr” shows how wrong this system is currently. Selig, like every “Titan of Industry” needs to fuck with the game so much that we get this? Ya, I know, bad calls jobbed a guy out of a perfect game. Too freakin bad, that’s baseball…and we all know what Jimmy Dugan would say…

    • xoot says:

      I understand the analogy to tennis and calls on the line. That’s why I can stomach the idea of turning a live ball into a dead ball (i.e., using review to change fair to foul or double off the top of the wall to HR). When that happens, either everyone trots back to start over (foul) or trots in to home plate (HR). The analogy to football, however, makes no sense. A huge amount of any football game consists of time outs and penalty-nullified plays. Adding quick additional timeouts for replay review doesn’t interfere with the rhythm and flow of the game; it fits right in.

      The only rational way to review “plays” at the plate would be to give managers unlimited right to challenge any run scored. If a manager sees an uncontested runner fail to step on home plate and his appeal is denied, he would have the same right to review as a manager who believes the catcher failed to tag the sliding runner in a bang-bang play at the plate. Problem, of course, is that many plays at the plate happen in the middle of a larger play going on all round the basepaths. This is the Maddon principle–even if the ump definitively signals out at the plate for the third out of the inning, everyone else on the bases and in the field should continue to run and play as if the ball is still alive, because the out call may be overruled. Bullshit.

  5. annapirhana says:

    Just going to change the header so that it’ll be more search engine/blogger friendly. Believe it or not, we have a ton of lurkers here.

    I agree with Flannery.

    I don’t understand this system of punishment on asking for replays. Yes, there is a potential for abuse if you start asking to replay every single play, but isn’t that what you’re asking for in instant replay? The whole point is for more accountability in the game, and not a free license for umpires to go blind after some moron in New York decides to back the umpires. As Flannery pointed out, there were horrible calls on balls and strikes. At some point after the 6th inning, the game simply became unwatchable for me. The umpiring crew was going to continue on with their stupid calling unquestioned, and it was clear that no matter what the Giants had planned on doing to rally, the plate umpire was going to continue with calling low and way inside as a strike to Hunter Pence, for example. And could Boch go out and argue? Wouldn’t that be an even quicker ejection, now that the umpires have been given breathing room?

    I agree that all calls at home plate should be reviewed, so long as you have this system in place. I think that all baseline hits should be reviewed, so long as the system is in place. The instant replay has changed umpiring, in that umpires have less reason to be accountable because they know that a manager has only one chance in the game to ask for replay.

    This game was beautiful because it was about the players and the field and everything else so neat and sacred. Yesterday, it wasn’t about that. It was about umpiring, and very very bad umpiring.

  6. xoot says:

    Lincecum may have food poisoning (barfed like hell yesterday apparently) and may miss his start.

    Or maybe he just had an understandably visceral reaction to baseball instant replay review.

  7. Chico says:

    Swipe tag in the A’s game where Norris was called out at the plate. He looked out.. Lets see what REPLAY says.

  8. xoot says:

    After three days of regular season games across mlb we’ve seen two terrible instances of reply delay. This isn’t the ACA; just pull the plug. But they won’t, of course, they’ll work feverishly to speed things up.

  9. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, the New York angle is the worst part. What if the guy’s taking a leak? It’s like calling 911 and getting put on hold . . .

  10. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    “I’m not going to find a way to put my fingerprints on a sacred game that has worked fine for over 130 years ….”

    Perish the thought.

    In some ways, the resistance to expanding replay reminds me a bit of the ideological battle, over “Obamacare”. Like claim “death panels” and “job-killing,” etc., etc., to derail the new ACA in its infancy … before “the American people” actually come to like it, as Ted Cruz warned fellow Republicans.

    Here’s how I understand MLB’s expanded replay rules in the new millennium:

    1. The expanded replay implementation is a three year project.
    2. It’s aim is to “get the most impactful calls right”
    3. It’s not a perfect system in its fledgling incarnation.
    4. there will be inevitable confusion
    5. Expanded Replay must have a limited impact on the ‘flow’ – hence, in part, the “beauty” – of the game.

    Here’s how many fans of last night’s game sees expanded replay,

    1) it’s not a perfect system – actually, “it sucks!”
    2) In fact, it failed to get “the most impactful calls right!”
    3) there was entirely unacceptable “confusion”
    4) Expanded Replay – 3 minutes plus of wasted time – disrupted the flow – hence, “beauty” – of game two of the 162 game 2014 season.

    BR (Before Replay), fans at least were ‘entertained’ by getting to watch their manager scuffle and chaw with the ump. This disruption to the flow of the game, hence, was entirely acceptable because it added color to the game – even if these fights always proved one-sided and if faovr of the God on the field of play: the umpire. Meanwhile, the pitcher in this instance too was left ‘standing around’ while the manager risked ejection. But, at least fans were getting their money’s worth, terrible call always and without a doubt withstanding.

    If I didn’t know better, I might be inclined to believe that if the traditional baseball fan had been in charge of the NASA program back in the 60’s, perhaps, the furthest step ‘mankind’ would have taken that day, was the one, headed in the direction of the beer in the refridgerator.

    Because, change is sometimes difficult. sometimes it just sucks. Not unlike those protest how we’re all an abomination in the eyes of god, because we aren’t practicing orthodox, fundamentalist, good old time religion. Or less honestly, John Boehner, who dissembles to “speak on behalf of the American people,” that America has the “best” health care ‘system’ BO (Before Obamacare), so why change it?!

    There was a time Before Replay. There was also a time before man and Amelia Earhart both ever stepped into the cockpit to experience something completely foreign to what had never occurred before. Instead of fighting the notion that humans were meant to fly (well, sorta), I support the laudable idea that baseball too was eventually destined for Expanded Replay ever since the Wachowski Brothers proved that Neo could dodge several bullets all at the same time.

  11. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Local Bear Valley Weather Report:

    45 inches of snow in the last seven days.
    80 inch base at mid-Mtn Lodge.

    Still, NPR reported this morning that current snow pack / water content is at 31% of normal.
    (Even when it snows, the gods seem to have it in for California this coming summer)

  12. unca_chuck says:

    It was at 12% about a month ago, Bear Valley. You really live there? Love that place . . . Haven’t been since about 1982 though . . .

    • sandy32koufax says:


    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Chuck, 12% to 31% is definitely a move in the right direction. Who knows, “climate change” is in part defined as “unusual” and “extreme,” changing weather conditions; and it’s still possible April and May could make up more of the difference.

      Yeah, like my alias, I threw caution into the deep snow and bought a year round cabin about 2 miles from Bear Valley last June. I am planning on a lot of driving, fair weather permitting, thinking to serve Calaveras, Tuolumne, and Alpine counties.

  13. sandy32koufax says:

    Good game down south tonight;-)

  14. sandy32koufax says:

    Am I the only one watching the Padres game? Or the A’s?

  15. xoot says:

    Morse smoked that LD to CF.

  16. sandy32koufax says:

    Haren loses the nono in the 4th…

  17. sandy32koufax says:

    shutout’s gone now too. 3-1, one out, bottom 4th, runners at the corners.

  18. sandy32koufax says:

    Haren pitches out of it, strikes out Venable for the second time tonight…1 er and 4k’s thru 4…3-1 Good Guys

  19. xoot says:

    I’m a bit surprised we haven’t discussed this–the greeting our Supreme Court offered us this morning. http://tinyurl.com/n7tb25f

    • sandy32koufax says:

      It’s too depressing right now. Seriously, America has become the antithesis of the “Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave”/”Land of opportunity.”

      The Roberts Supreme Court flogs the uber wealthy every way they’re told to by them…

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Agree with sk, it’s a real bummer. The Bush ‘coup’ in 2000 not only laid waste to our economy, our global reputation (torture et all), but his Supreme court additions of Roberts and Alito assured the same conservative 5-4 court that not only got Bush ‘appointed’ in the first place, but now resulted in the double-whammy of Citizens United and their latest prize, renamed, “The Sheldon Adelson” Act. Once more upholding the outlandish / outrageous notion the “Money = Speech”.

    • Chico says:

      I weep for this country and my kids. I really do.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        “From a certain point onward, there is no longer any turning back. That is the point that must be reached.” –F. Kafka … In this instance, Kafka suggests to me that America will / must hit some kind of bottom – that makes the Bush 2007 recession / economic collapse look like small potatoes – before the American people come to see the light so blindingly clear that this current bunch of run-amok oligarchs, banksters, and crooks will be swept away … at least for some indeterminate number of years before the rich try all over again to undermine a government by, for, and of the average jane and joe.

  20. sandy32koufax says:

    Meanwhile, down in Los Anaheim, Da Awnhells are losing six zip

  21. sandy32koufax says:

    Time for Romo to earn his keep

  22. Chico says:

    I say the whole country has a tax revolt next year.. NOBODY files their taxes until we see CHANGE! I’m not joking. They can’t throw us all in jail.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Chico, it would work, I agree, assuming “we” could somehow coordinate the action. I’m pretty sure a lot of government-hating red necks, etc.. would prove easy enough to recruit, but they might also prove to be a somewhat unruly lot. Also, some of them suffer from a crippling fear of taking showers ….

  23. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, I saw the SCOTUS is hell-bent to protect the rights of all the poor corporate people out there. Buying elections is getting easier by the day. Its getting to the point that corporate people can foist their religious views onto their employees and deny certain types of coverage

    You a fireman, Shoeless?

    • Chico says:

      Let me know when the velvet revolution begins Chuck. I’m looking forward to it.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      No, Chuck, I’m a “Tuner-Technician” (I have been servicing pianos since August, 1975 … last port of call, Eugene, OR) But, I see the cunning logic behind your question. good guess! πŸ™‚ fireman. let’s hope none are needed up here at 7000 feet come summer. Last summer, of course, there was the Rim Fire that rained ash some 50 miles northeast of the rim all the way up here in the valley both before and after Labor Day.

  24. sandy32koufax says:

    Hahahahaha…A’s just choked on it…deep throat this! Two runs on a single w/an error. 5-4 A’s, men at 2nd and 3rd, one out. Bottom 9th

  25. Chico says:

    Tim Husdon, you da man!!

  26. sandy32koufax says:

    It’s still damn strange hearing Tim Hudson and attaching that to the damn jints

  27. unca_chuck says:

    Weird, yes. Dude’s a bulldog though. I’m digging it so far.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Hate to say it but after following him all of these yrs and liking him, until now, he was fun to watch.

  28. sandy32koufax says:

    SHITE! Jamey Wright is coming in to pitch the bottom of the 8th for LA…fackme

  29. xoot says:

    Great game tonight–from Hudson, Pagan, et al. Lotta fun.

    How much are the a’s paying their closer? I’ll bet Beano’s punching holes in the wall.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Cot’s knows πŸ˜‰ What a joke Johnson looked like. 29 pitches, 15 strikes, 3 runs, 2 earned.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      xoot, Perfect bullpen relief too. A classic kind of Giants win. I’m already feeling more at home after game 3. Unfortunately, no replay challenges … Bochy’s learned a valuable lesson! πŸ™‚

  30. sandy32koufax says:

    If this is Mrs H, cool wife/fan:

    “Kim Hudson @kimberlybhudson
    So proud of Tim’s great work tonight in his @SFGiants debut! #greatteam #bigexpectations”

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      That’s actually sweet.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        From Alex Pavlovic’s entry@GiantsExtra:

        “Early this spring, I tweeted something about Tim Hudson. I don’t remember what it said, but I do remember that his wife hit the retweet button … and I definitely remember the response. For more than a day, every time I checked Twitter I had a couple more responses from Braves fans who were replying to Kim Hudson. They were all the same, some variation of β€œwish we still had him … we’ll miss him … lucky Giants.”

  31. Chico says:

    Please vote for Grandma Maggie. A fellow pacifican, giants fan, and more importantly, a breast cancer survivor. This is her dream, and you can help make it happen. http://mlb.mlb.com/honorarybatgirl/2014/gallery.jsp?transactionId=329572605&tcid=tw_honorarybatgirl_2014

    • Chico says:

      “It was Friday the 13th in July of 2007.
      No, I have NOT been a lucky person.
      Breast cancer hit me ten months after my dad had died. I thought maybe I had been lucky and caught it early on the fly with a partial mascetomy and radiation because my team of doctors at Stanford Hospital were Giants
      But breast cancer hit a homer out of the park in the late summer of 2008.
      I ended up with a double mascetomy & transflap reconstruction surgery exactly two years after my dad passed away.
      Three months after my surgery, I felt like I was running the bases again finally with the arrival of my first granddaughter.
      I really caught a winner with that one-she’s my reminder of how long I’m cancer free! Almost 5 1/2 years and counting. That’s GIANT in my eyes!!!
      Would absolutely love to take that grandbaby to her first baseball game with me as an Honorary Bat Girl this year.
      What do you say, Giants? Turn my luck around & pick me!
      Send Grandma Maggie and her granddaughter Wynter Moon to the ball park!!!”

      • sandy32koufax says:

        I voted for her but…Wynter Moon? Is that a name from a cheesy Stephen King book or are the parents related to Rob Morrow or Gwen Stefani?

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Isn’t Wynter Moon the latest little devilish addition of Rob Zombie and Sheri Moon (according to my reference book here on Zombie culture, children assume the surname of the just slightly more living mother).

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Wow … out of as many as 1368 ‘candidates’, I had hoped to vote for every one of them, but I voted for the clear winner, Grandma Maggie. πŸ™‚

  32. Chico says:

    Wow, I just looked up the ‘page views’. We’re now Hollywood, folks..

    If anyone wants to talk baseball, please sign in. A’s fans, Dodger fans, whatever. Why just look, when you can get a comment and a reaction!?! πŸ˜‰

    We don’t bite.

  33. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Belt gives Lincecum an early 1 run lead!

  34. unca_chuck says:

    Timmy should NEVER pitch to Goldschmidt

  35. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Oh, oh … Tim needs to limit the Goldschmidt damage already done.

  36. xoot says:

    the game day feed makes it look like every pitch Lincecum has thrown has been at the top of the zone. If that’s accurate it sucks. He’s got to get the ball down. One pitch to Goldie, huh? Well, good for the pitch count. Belt sure is hot.

  37. unca_chuck says:

    Who the hell is Tuffy Gosewisch?

  38. xoot says:

    Pence with the cannon again?

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Jon Flemming is my ‘eyes’ … it had to be more like a laser guided, heat seeking missle from my vantage.

  39. unca_chuck says:

    Gameday is not quite the same as radio even, is it?

  40. annapirhana says:

    I know this is a very female thing to say, but that giant glass behind homeplate makes the catcher’s butt look huge.

    In other news, YAY for tying the game!!!!! Nice job.

  41. Chico says:

    I grew up with a ‘Tuffy'(real name is Ben).. Good guy. Army Ranger, currently stationed at Ft Benning.

  42. Chico says:

    Timmy has settled in.. Keeping them off balance, too.

  43. Chico says:

    Pagan 2B.

  44. Chico says:

    Missed opportunity. Ugh.

  45. xoot says:

    7 Ks thru 5? wtf did he throw Goldielocks a first pitch four seamer?

  46. annapirhana says:

    Hmmm … I hope Lincecum shaves. Looks like a chocolate mustache.

  47. Chico says:

    Timmy got Goldy out! Krukow – “If I was Timmy, I’m asking for the ball” LOL!

  48. sandy32koufax says:

    That guy keeps leaving the ball too higfh in the hstrike zone…go HIGH or move it but shoot down the pipe belt-high

  49. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Because of Lincecum’s “DNA,” as Kuip describes it, did Tim again go for the SO … and missed badly? Instead, he needs to pitch for location (assuming this is in Tim’s DNA, too) in tough counts. He needs to let go of “The Freak” and be more like The Brain Surgeon.

    • unca_chuck says:

      Huddy needs to get into Timmy’s head about pitching.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Yes. Better to work through this Tim’s stubborn (ingrained) mindset now – early in the season, and hope to see the new Lincecum 2.0 sooner now. Next start would be about right.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Tim came ‘this close’ to getting out of the 6th – for a “quality start”. Not quite. Not today.

  50. unca_chuck says:

    FUck, Timmy. He hung that slider badly.

  51. Chico says:


  52. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    keep a short leash on Huff. It’s only a 1 run game.

  53. sandy32koufax says:

    That’s a fair ball

  54. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Huff? Cover 1B! 😦

  55. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Kemp suiting up for tomorrow’s game.

  56. Chico says:


  57. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Hector! Pence safe!!! One run game again! Do it again.

  58. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Looming BIG, Morse strides up to plate.

  59. Chico says:


  60. Chico says:


  61. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    No way! Way!!!! 3 Run Boomer.

  62. Chico says:

    Xoot, it was not a cheapo, either. Pagan got all of that. Deep RC

  63. unca_chuck says:

    Pagan with the tater!

  64. Chico says:

    The Pagan Salute.

  65. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    5 Runs all in the 8th … the kind of “come from behind” character that Giants fans might hope to see all season long,

  66. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Santiago’s doing his thing splendidly so far.

  67. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    A fantastic (because so critical) start – winning the first series vs D-backs. Giants half way to getting back home. “Onward to Las Angeleeze!” πŸ™‚

  68. xoot says:

    had to follow the last 3 innings on my phone
    pretty wild
    wall of power!

  69. sandy32koufax says:

    It’s on en manana.

  70. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Kuip’s take on Lincecum: He did very, very well (despite giving up the 4 runs). No walks. Bodes well for this year – so says the bit more critical of the Kruk and Kuip pairing.

  71. unca_chuck says:

    I didn’t see it. On;y game cast, but he wasn’t going deep into counts like Cain was. But, you hang a slider, and the pros will eat that shit for lunch. Esp power guys like trumbo and Goldy. He’s got to miss low with that. That pitch to Goldy was a fastball that was supposed to go inside. It didn’t.

  72. sandy32koufax says:

    Bring it!

    • xoot says:

      Way back, while watching White Christmas, I noticed that the Seinfeld Kramer character was a direct rip off of Danny Kaye. For some reason I liked the rip off more. Now I know why.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        You still tap and sing DK’s songs and wish your hair was red…

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          That was great, sk! I am big fan of Danny Kaye. From The Court Jester, The Inspector General and all the rest. His musical abilities extended to conducting as well, I believe. Incredibly talented and wonderful comic.

          However … I must take umbrage with the Dodger-heavy tone of the tune. Too much happy-go-lucky, positive stuff about them Bums. Fortunately, it’s all in the past. Nothing but true blue doom, powder blue gloom, and pewter blue despair ahead. πŸ™‚

          • sandy32koufax says:

            Yes, he was funny and exhibited great musicality. IDK he’d conducted, though. Thanks for the knowledge.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Cute video, I guess it’s really on!

      Q: What do you get when you combine all 40 San Francisco Giants with 40 lesbians?

      A: Eighty people that dont do dick!

      • xoot says:

        I’m not sure that makes sense. Or are you saying that the Giants entire 40-man roster is straight?

        What do you get when you combine the la dodgers with Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian? A merger of equals.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          It made perfect sense and you know exactly what it means…don’t obfuscate…that’s what attys do!

          • xoot says:

            no, no. You see, the flat macho colloquial meaning of “don’t do dick” or “can’t do dick,” suggesting ineffectiveness, is at odds with the more omni-sexual significance of the same locution when uttered by someone in a non-macho context. And you confused matters by introducing lesbianism. Turrible. Just turrible. (NCAA basketball’s back this weekend.)

            • sandy32koufax says:

              Oh, it’s all about the grammatical correctness of the joke now? My friend, the Rabbi in Sacramento would love you…she is always doing that to me.

              Howsumever (see what I did there?), you having word fun? I am

              • shoelessinbearvalley says:

                Does everybody else “see” the video herein? I was able to watch sk’s Danny Kaye bit, but when I click on xoot’s video, I get static, including a text message informing me that “this video contains WMG content … it is restricted from playback ….”

                • xoot says:

                  I’m using my work computer and I’m enjoying the Dodgers Suck video in full. go to youtube and search “dodgers suck” and this vid should pop up at or near the top.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  I saw it. Kinda funny, in a ghetto sorta way…;-)

    • annapirhana says:

      I approve this video!

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Q: What do the San Francisco Giants and Billy Graham have in common?

        A: They both can make 40,000 people stand up and yell “Jesus Christ”.

        • xoot says:

          What do the dodgers and Billy Graham have in common?
          They’re both huge corporations trying to create monopolies with their money.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            Ya lost me there…what monopoly is LA trying to create??? TV? That’s a good one.

            Q: What is the difference between Ryan Vogelsong and bowling icon Walter Ray Williams, Jr.?

            A: Walter Ray Williams, Jr. knows how to throw a strike.

            • shoelessinbearvalley says:

              What xoot’s trying to say is that Billy Graham and the LA Dodgers share one thing in common: They both tend to recruit a stadium full of fan-addicts.

              • sandy32koufax says:

                Hmmm…the irony in that is magnetic.

              • xoot says:

                No. What I said is that both corporate entities will always try to monopolize their respective industries by buying up resources, leaving competitors at an unfair disadvantage.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        “annapirhana says:
        April 3, 2014 at 6:07 pm
        I approve this video!”

        So you’re like the Mayor of Camarillo now?

  73. sandy32koufax says:

    Q: How do you castrate an San Francisco Giants fan?

    A: Kick his sister in the mouth

  74. sandy32koufax says:

    that ashtray510 dood is calling me out in a very PC, pissy way at the Splash…over a joke like these. Doink-ass

    • xoot says:

      I don’t quite understand that guy. his “SF elitist” “Oaktown proletarian” schitck seems ok. I’m not hostile to any dialectic. But he seems to be looking for a fight. Dodger fans are the easy targets on blogs like the splash. I’d just ignore him. (I pretty much do.)

      After all, we all know, the dodgers suck!

      • sandy32koufax says:

        He is an annoying little pissant, isn’t he? Anyway-good advice, MacDuff. I always have that in mind, btw, that anyone seeing my handle or updated avatar will instantly be on the defensive.

        Besides, we all know LA’s destined to win it all this year…

        • shaman138 says:

          He’s a snobby soccer fan who thinks any other sport is inferior.

          And, yes, the LA Clippers are likely to win it all this year.

    • annapirhana says:

      Stop playing in that toilet!

  75. sandy32koufax says:

    “…alone again…naturally…”

  76. xoot says:

    “Brad Ausmus gets a hug from Kim [Kardashian]. Highlight of his season.” And everyone laughs happily, because they’re LA fans.

  77. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    You guys crack me up! A lone Dodger nut vs the a Giants onslaught, yet holding his own. Such a Titan series so early in the season looks to be fantastic.

  78. xoot says:

    I didn’t even know that there are 4 Kardashian women until I saw that “first pitch” video. Any franchise that would allow such a farce is just flat out execrable. No excuses. The dodgers suck.

  79. unca_chuck says:

    Shit. Watching the replay, and MOW is right.

    What do 40 Khardashians and 40 Dodgers have in common?

    They all like it in the ass.

    THAT’S how the joke goes . . .

    • sandy32koufax says:


      A father and son are outside Dodgers stadium, and the young son is asking his father to buy him a “Giants Suck” T-shirt. The father hesitates, but finally tells his son, “You can have the shirt if you promise never to say that word.” “That’s right,” says the T-shirt vendor, wanting to make the sale. “‘Suck’ isn’t a very nice word.” “No,” replies the father. “I meant the word ‘Giants’.”

  80. unca_chuck says:

    At least the seagulls have good taste. They are attracted to good food. The Latrine is covered in flies. We all know what they are attracted to.

  81. unca_chuck says:

    Going full Andrew Dice Clay here.

  82. shaman138 says:

    Looks like it’s in extra-snorings over in Tarptown tonight….ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

  83. xoot says:

    The next evening, about an hour and half before sunset, he walked out onto the balcony of the Lorraine Motel.

    • annapirhana says:

      I grew up in the ‘hood, the ghetto, the place where people weren’t poor but broke. King brought a sense of hope to all people who lived in the area. My father brought me to a march when I was really really small, and we blended in with the blacks, the whites (yes, people) and every other ethnicity. We all had to go.

      Despite the insistence that racism is a thing of the past, it really is not. We live among people who have tried to soften Hitler’s image while vilifying the memory of MLK. At least most of us witnessed the tide of change. Just wish it went its full course.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Everything about King’s speech, from timbre, words, and cadence suggest that Rev. King knew his time on earth was in its last stage. Premonition of impending death or did he have advance warning? (I don’t know). But King’s “farewell” speech included the caveat that Life remains fraught with universal injustice, inequality and suffering.

      MLK witnessed and accepted the fact that Life is Suffering (one of the “Four Noble Truths” taught by Buddha), and by admitting to this fact, then The Suffering / The Struggle ceased to be a daunting or impossible undertaking. I believe he saw this fact clearly, running in all directions as far as the eye could see, upon that Mountaintop. And I believe he still wants us to see this fact too; because by accepting – as opposed to running away from / ‘cushioning’ ourselves with life’s ‘distractions’ – ‘toys’, TV, alcohol (drugs), porn, ‘trolling’ chat rooms, etc., etc.), then the “Promised Land” lies directly ahead for those willing to accept The Struggle.

  84. xoot says:

    Wow. Today’s also the birthday of Muddy Waters. I took a look at youtube, to see if any new clips of him live have posted lately. (Surprisingly few good ones available.) I pretty much ignored the ads that popped up before the vids played. But one was a long political ad touting Bryan Parker, an African American man running for mayor of Oakland.

    Wait a minute. A guy sitting at a computer in Oakland first searches MLK and then searches the blues and quickly gets targeted so precisely? Ouch.

    • unca_chuck says:

      Google knows all. They put the NSA to shame . . .

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Ya, I’ve been on the phone with my buddy more than once and we enter the same search parameters but based on our past usages, we come up with different results. Scary to know peeps like FaceBook and google are “fighting” for internet ‘privacy.’

  85. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    From Henry Schulman this morning (two ‘fun’ facts):

    “Yasiel Puig was in the original lineup but was removed because he showed up late for batting practice. Yet another strike against the Puig, who keeps saying he wants to be better yet keeps showing otherwise.

    “Matt Kemp will start in Puig’s place. Kemp was activated from the DL today after a long rehab from ankle and shoulder surgeries.”

  86. unca_chuck says:

    Funny, Puig called a team meeting a couple days ago so he could clear the air with his teammates. Then he pulls this shit a day later? Classic.

  87. Chico says:

    Puig is acting just like our own Sandy πŸ˜‰

    • xoot says:

      I had the distinct impression that Sandy and I were matching each other drink for drink after work yesterday. I had my reasons; he no doubt had his. I’m going into training, however, so no more of that for me. (Training for what? to survive old age.)

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Hey Chico, I’m not under contract, a jints fan nor earning anywhere near $7M this year. xoot, no…I was waaaaaaaay ahead of you. Ya, “reasons.” I launched my boat and put it into it’s slip two weeks ago, planning to move onto it…and found out I need to dry-dock it and replace the trim tab struts. I just poured some money into the fucker too. 😦

        • Chico says:

          Sorry to hear that buddy..

          • sandy32koufax says:

            Ya, I rebuilt my outdrive and dropped in a volvo instead of the chevy block…also tore off the transom and redid the ribbing. The one thing I didn’t mess with was the struts, I even changed all of the hydraulic tubing/hoses…I’m ready to live on a boat again and now it’ll be another two-four weeks if I can’t rent an in-water boat-lift for reasonable money

  88. sandy32koufax says:

    3-0? Fugid

  89. sandy32koufax says:

    Comedy of errors

  90. xoot says:

    helluva two out rally, it appears. Now Vogelsong–who had absolutely no ABs in ST.

  91. xoot says:

    are you shittin me? Fun game so far!

  92. xoot says:

    Is my computer correct? Did the Giants just bat around AFTER they had two outs?

  93. annapirhana says:

    I cannot watch this game on anything 😦 YOU SUCK DODGERS. First time Opening Day hasn’t been on TV for people in LA to watch.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      You’re in Camarillo and MLB.COM is blacked out for this game? I know guys in Santee that are watching it online.

  94. sandy32koufax says:

    Fucking Puig. IDK that he’d be making those plays in Ctr but Kemp is obviously not himself or even ready to be making the plays that he normally would be.

  95. annapirhana says:

    Bill Plaschke ‏@BillPlaschke 2m
    This is worst home opener of any team in my 30 years of watching them..angry players, benched players, booing fans, Dodgers down 8-0 in 2nd

  96. Chico says:

    This is fantastic!

  97. xoot says:

    booing fans? that is wonderful. They came to watch a movie and got a baseball game instead.

  98. xoot says:

    Did Pagan almost park that one?

  99. sandy32koufax says:

    Party on jints fans. It’s the third inning, 2 charged errors and four mental errors by LA. score says sf is beating la 8-0 but it should only be 0-0 or 2-0…

    Hardest hit ball I’ve ever seen by Giordon on that single to left

  100. xoot says:

    The Giants played a sloppy game the other night, got far behind early, but pulled it together and won.

  101. Chico says:

    @MLB Jesus tweeted “if this we softball, the game would be over. #mercy #8zip.

  102. xoot says:

    I think it’s a good idea to wear this guy Dominguez out today. 98 mph? No need to see that again tomorrow. Bring on League.

  103. xoot says:

    the bums should be ahead now, right? πŸ˜‰

  104. sandy32koufax says:

    Game one to the jints…putz’

  105. xoot says:

    Ah! Back to the top of the rotation. MadBum and Cain need to be sharp.

  106. Chico says:

    Dodger fans today.

  107. annapirhana says:

    Fresno Grizzlies ‏@FresnoGrizzlies 19m
    .@SFGiants reliever Jeremy Affeldt faces 7 batters in his 1st rehab game – 0.1 IP, 4 R (all earned), 3 H, 2 BB, 1 HBP, 33 pitches.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Kinda sad to hear coco’s reflections. I’d love to see the A’s stay in Oakland, get a new stadium in a better part of town. And, while renovators and investors are at it, I’d love to see the aaa’s trolls be given a new sport to root for … like, maybe, Dodgeball.

  108. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    LAD scuffled mightily in yesterday’s one-sided affair. I’m pretty damn sure today’s game will be the traditional kind of Giants-Dodgers dog fight. Donnie, I think it’s easy to predict, will sit Kemp restore Puig to RF. I expect MadBum to have his first quality start of the season, hopefully going 7+ innings. Should be a good – highly competitive – game.

    • annapirhana says:

      I sure wish I could watch it πŸ˜₯

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Until I re-subscribe to Dish’s “top 250+” package (which includes ‘my’ Tennis Channel), I’m content to ‘watch’ the games via KNBR (need MLB.com “Audio” – as I know you have – or a more ancient thing once called a “radio” to be able to follow the game.)

  109. sandy32koufax says:

    It’s a new day, jints fans. Bumgarner vs Paul Maholm. Who? I may have troubles sleeping tonight, or showing my mug here and at the Splashlet if #47 doesn’t throw a career game today…

  110. xoot says:

    MadBum should pound the inside corner on Puig. Hell drill the guy rather than let him hit. He always puts on a good show when he gets nicked.

  111. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    A better top of the first for LAD today. darn. πŸ˜‰

  112. sandy32koufax says:

    Just doing a drive-by, catch you crazy crabs later

  113. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    The Splash has yet to post today’s LU …. Viafoura probably ‘comment disabled’ Schulman.

  114. xoot says:

    MadBum handled that first-pitch swinging approach pretty well.

  115. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Crawford missed making a better case for being able to hit an LH pitcher this time. Still, as my Dad would likely remind, scoring one run, “is still better than a poke in the eyeball.”

  116. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Unearned run off Pagan?

  117. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Kemp apparently more mobile today.

  118. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Bumgarner: 51 Pitches. 31 Strikes, 20 Balls
    Maholm: 51 Pitches. 30 Strikes, 21 Balls

  119. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    B-O-O-M … Morse!!!

  120. shoelessinbearvalley says:


  121. sandy32koufax says:

    So, is it me or is Wests strike zone very tiny?

  122. annapirhana says:

    Can someone explain to me how this 6-1 score happened? I was downstairs doing laundry. πŸ˜₯

  123. Chico says:

    Fuck yeah!!

  124. annapirhana says:

    They are discussing beach balls and the wave at Dodger Stadium on twitter. I guess this is what the game has come to, eh?

  125. sandy32koufax says:

    What does Madbum have, like 29 Ks?

  126. xoot says:

    Pablo’s looking pretty quick at 3B. Many good plays already this year.

  127. sandy32koufax says:

    Looks safe to me

  128. sandy32koufax says:

    That tag looks like it came as Ellis’ foot touched the plate…replay sucks if the replay umps don’t overrule field calls. Tie goes to the runner

  129. xoot says:

    stupid to send Ellis with the heart of the order coming up

  130. sandy32koufax says:

    LA has six outs to score six runs or whatever they may need to win this

  131. sandy32koufax says:

    phuck it…I lost a bet for a bottle of wine to the rabbi…

  132. xoot says:

    Peter Matthiessen died. RIP. At Play in the Fields of the Lord and Far Tortuga are both really good novels. There’s a jungle scene in APFL in which a monkey with a just picked piece of fruit in its hand gets nabbed by the jaws of a big cat. While the feline jaws are closing the monkey tries to get one last bite of its own food. Far Tortuga is another thing altogether. The dazzle of sunlight on the sea dominates every page.

  133. Chico says:

    Yes!!! We spanked the bums, again! “Is this cloud 9”? I think it is! Cheers!

  134. Chico says:

    My buddy Zack at Dodger Stadium today after the win.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Another Happy Giants Fan standing above so many stinging blue eyes.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      IDCare what any of you peeps say, Dodger Stadium and Elysian Park are beautiful. Cool pic except for the jints voodoo amulet πŸ˜‰

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Well, I’ll grant you Chavez is prettier than a tarped A’s infield on a bright and sunny day following a forgettable, tarp-less night.

      • annapirhana says:

        Chavez Latrine was much better before McCourt reconfigured the seating to RyanAir specification. It’s nice to see there and see the palm trees, which is very classic LA. It is the other issues with the stadium — the jacked up parking and traffic, the long and stupid lines to use the restroom in the bleacher area, the beach balls, the wave and the violence that makes me want to go there about as much as my dog wants to visit the vet.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          IDK if you remember, but I said during the McWhoops era that I wouldn’t return to there until he was gone…that said, I still haven’t been there. I have no love for Guggieco either. I don’t know why “hip Angelinos” still do the wave but beach balls have always been a part of Dodger stadium and the violence, like what we grew up with at the stick, definitely needs to be as forcefully addressed as possible. Again, O’Malley didn’t have problems of this magnitude, but they always have existed. Re parking and traffic, $15.00 is a DEAL compared to prices at at&t and traffic at any event in LA is a nightmare…something you’re well aware of. Maybe it’s time for a new vet, my dogs LOVE theirs’…

          • annapirhana says:

            The parking is $20 for regular, and something like $40 for the preferred parking. And while you might think the old $15 parking is a deal, you forget how much longer it takes to get out of the park from those areas.

            The all-you-can-eat area, however, is a hoot. There is a line and you just flow through it and get your feed. You feel as if you’re going to the trough, but what the heck!

            • sandy32koufax says:

              IDK what prices are for season ticket holders at pcp but I’ve paid over Hmmm, Dodgers’ website and Hernandez say parking starts@$15.00 up to $40.00. I know from experience if I use valet or certain lots near pcp that I’ll pay over $40.00

            • sandy32koufax says:

              Uh, same feel at a couple of places I’ve been to that offer all you can eat. Caesars’?

              • annapirhana says:

                Casino buffets aren’t that bad. The ones in Japan are amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaing but they put a time limit on it. The Dodgers all-you-can-eat doesn’t included the nice broiled hot dogs. It is boiled, but you can get as many as you like. I was shuttled through lines when I first went through the stadium turnstiles, and I ended up with a drink, hot dog, nachos and peanuts. That’s more than enough for a game, but you’re paying $40 a head to see a crappy team wearing a crappy blue uniform. So you want to get your money’s worth, right? So you head back for more hotdogs, more nachos, more peanuts, more drinks. Nevermind the beer line, because it’s 5 innings long. Then when you think…okay…I’ve eaten about $30 worth of food, you make two other return trips to get your $40 fill. Once you get rolled out of the stadium in the 7th inning, you head to the ER to get meds for your gall stones and pancreatitis. So now you’re really paying more than $40.

                Who needs that?

  135. xoot says:

    I wonder if ARod is still refusing to pay his lawyers? Looks like he’s going to need more legal assistance, and I doubt the public defender’s office will have the resources to fight this one;


    • sandy32koufax says:

      Sounds like jail time is a possibility if he isn’t represented and even if he is…also sounds like time to pay the fees and find BETTER lawyers than those from the arb hearings.

  136. Chico says:

    Lets go!

  137. sandy32koufax says:

  138. sandy32koufax says:

  139. sandy32koufax says:

    About time the Dodgers showed up

  140. sandy32koufax says:

    Ya, I can see Pence with a Splash hit jack…

    • Chico says:

      5-2 Bums. The ESPN crew is performing oral sex on the Doyers.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        6-2! So you’re not a purveyor of oral sex πŸ˜‰ ?

      • xoot says:

        Some of the Giants pitchers aren’t doing much better. Still, it was heartening to hear Kershaw try to blame the mediocre start on the trip to Australia. They have no clue, no team bond, no chemistry. They do have a lot of talent, however. So I think they’re going to be a streaky team all season. Let’s just hope the bad streaks continue to coincide, at least in part, with series vs. the Giants.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          I missed anything Kersh may have said, didn’t get back til the 2nd or 3rd inning. They seem to have more chemistry than you want to admit, not just talent. The problem isn’t how they commune, it remains the ever changing roster/lineups…and no, “let’s” not hope for LA losing more than they win against SF this year.

          • xoot says:

            So we disagree. I suspect we’ll see.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              We shall. You realize that my UCLA thing has me rooting against the Wildcats, ya? Too close for comfort

            • xoot says:

              So you’re scared of five 19 year olds? They’ve already proven what they needed to prove. Tomorrow night could go either way. Kentucky’s only sophomore, the nearly 7 foot brilliant shot blocker, is still out, injured. Randle’s ankle’s a question. If they can hit some threes and if Randle has a good game, KY should be champs. If not? Well, not.

              • sandy32koufax says:

                Scared? No. I’m looking at it this way…Kintuck is so good right now, with babies, that they can possibly win three straight. That ties them with UCLA for most all-time titles. I’m a Bruins fan and don’t want to see that happen.

                • xoot says:

                  I understand. John Wooden’s legacy is more ancient than Lasorda’s. Different world. New millenium. Etc.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Hoo, you’re on a roll this wknd. Have you always been a jints fan or were a fan of another team first? I don’t understand that “root for the home team” crap, btw.

              • Chico says:

                Calapari gives the greatest interviews. Anyone else notice that? Not sure If I would vote for him, but he’s a guy I’d like to have a beer with.

  141. Chico says:

    I’ll try it again. 5-2 road trip, I’m happy.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Congrats, again, jints fans…D’backs on Tuesday and LA has Scherzer the same day.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Absolutely. Taking 3-4 vs D-backs, and 2-3 vs LAD … I’m happy with the week’s outstanding results. Still, if I’m not mistake, Bochy let Cain work his pitch count to 139 pitches … that’s a helluva pc for ‘only’ 6 innings. I’m thinking Bochey wanted Cain to get a real workout – make him tougher for his next start. Still, as Marty Lurie observe tonight after the game, Cain had too many strikes / ball left up in the zone. And I think he said, “especially against RH hitters” – which seems counter-intuitive to the ‘righty-lefty’ strategem, but Kemp, Ramirez, and even Greinke – who also got a hit off Cain, are all RH batters. Cain needs to bear down, show improvement on his 3rd start.

  142. sandy32koufax says:

    Congrats on the series, Gfans. Hasta la sleepo

  143. shaman138 says:

    Season’s over, Sob. Sniff. Barf.

  144. annapirhana says:


  145. Chico says:

    I hate off days.

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