Baseball News for 11/25 – 12/8

Saturday, Dec 7 by xoot
12/6/13 litigation filing in the San Jose v. mlb lawsuit, in federal court in San Jose, asserts that mlb sent the A’s a letter on June 17, 2013, rejecting the A’s proposal for a move to San Jose. San Jose filed its lawsuit the next day. But the circumstances suggest that San Jose did not know what the letter said, exactly, because the June 17 letter now threatens to demolish San Jose’s small, remaining claims. Strange tale, that will get stranger.

Friday, December 5
(up. 9:41 a.m.) Per multiple sources, Robinson Cano has signed a 10yr/$240m contract with the Seattle Mariners. Jay-Z reportedly tried to squeeze the Mariners for $250m until the team management went all Little Kim on him.
(up. 9:41 a.m.) Per multiple sources, Curtis Granderson has signed on with the Mets for 4yr./$60m.

Thursday, December 4
(up. 12:46 p.m.) Per Jon Morosi, the Houston Astros have acquired Dexter Fowler and played to be named from Rockies for OF Brandon Barnes and RHP Jordan Lyles.
(up. 12:46 p.m.) Per multiple sources, Brian Wilson will be returning to the Dodgers for a 2yr./$18m contract (with incentives and what not). He will be functioning as the setup man.
(up. 12:46 p.m.) Per multiple sources, the Minnesota Twins have signed Phil Hughes to a 3yr./$24m deal.

Tuesday, December 3
San Francisco Giants News
— From MLB, SF Giants setting sights on left fielder article. (click to view)
(up. 10:02 a.m.) Per multiple sources, four prospects were injured and taken to the hospital after an accident in Scottsdale, AZ. Per Sal Castaneda, one individual is listed in critical condition.

New!(up. 7:03 p.m.) Per multiple sources, the Phillies have acquired Brad Lincoln from the Blue Jays in exchange for C Erik Kratz and minor league left-hander Rob Rasmussen.
(up. 5:52 p.m.) Per Mark Feinsand, Jacoby Ellsbury has signed with the NY Yankees for more than Carl Crawford‘s 7yr./$142m deal. Wowza.
(up. 4:37 p.m.) Per Jon Heyman, C Wil Nieves is heading to the Phillies.
(up. 3:48 p.m.) Per Alex Speier, Jarrod Saltalamacchia has agreed to a 3yr./$21m contract with the Miami Marlins.
(up. 1:39 p.m.) Per ESPN, Diamondbacks acquired RHP Justin Choate, sent P Heath Bell to Rays, P David Holmberg to Reds
(up. 10:02 a.m.) Per multiple sources, the Tampa Bay Rays have acquired Ryan Hanigan. This might be a 3-team deal so stay tuned.
(up. 9:25 a.m.) Per multiple sources, Brian Wilson and the LA Dodgers are close to a contract.
(up. 8:45 a.m.) Per multiple sources, A.J.Pierzynski has signed with the BoSox for a 1yr./$8.25m deal.
(up. 8:45 a.m.) Brian McCann has passed his physical and has officially become a New York Yankee.
(up. 8:32 a.m.) Per multiple sources, the Detroit Tigers will sign Joe Nathan.

11/25 to 12/2:

HOF ballot issued this week, featuring ex Giants Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, J.T. Snow, Ray Durham, Moises Alou and (what!?) Armando Benitez

Each writer gets to vote for ten, I believe.

The numbers below reflect: 2013 votes, % of 2013 votes, Yrs on ballot

Moises Alou
Jeff Bagwell, 339, 59.6%, 3
Armando Benitez
Craig Biggio, 388, 68.2%, 1
Barry Bonds, 206, 36.2%, 1
Sean Casey
Roger Clemens, 214, 37.6%, 1
Ray Durham
Eric Gagne
Tom Glavine
Luis Gonzalez
Jacque Jones
Todd Jones
Jeff Kent
Paul Lo Duca
Greg Maddux
Edgar Martinez, 204, 35.9%, 4
Don Mattingly, 75, 13.2%, 13
Fred McGriff, 118, 20.7%, 4
Mark McGwire, 96, 16.9%, 7
Jack Morris, 385, 67.7%, 14
Mike Mussina
Hideo Nomo
Rafael Palmeiro, 50, 8.8%, 3
Mike Piazza, 329, 57.8%, 1
Tim Raines, 297, 52.2%, 6
Kenny Rogers
Curt Schilling, 221, 38.8%, 1
Richie Sexson
Lee Smith, 272, 47.8%, 11
J.T. Snow
Sammy Sosa, 71, 12.5%, 1
Frank Thomas
Mike Timlin
Alan Trammell, 191, 33.6%, 12
Larry Walker, 123, 21.6%, 3

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157 Responses to Baseball News for 11/25 – 12/8

  1. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    ATT: MOW (Happy Thanksgiving All!),

    Unfortunately, the high winds up here last Friday morning knocked my phone / DSL out – it was only restored this afternoon – Wednesday, Nov. 27, around 3:32 PM! So, yeah, I was a de-webbed no-show on Monday night. I hope the exercise went well. Barring any further treasonous act of nature, and assuming there’s another game to group monitor, please, count me in. I’ll be there … god-willing.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Bum deal on the outage but it’s a trade-off to living with the trees, ya?

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Yeah, Happy Gobble to everyone. In the spirit of a new millennium of baseball, I’m cooking an “all natural” / no hormone / non-steroidal turkey this year.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Yeah, AT&T proved incredibly ‘lax’, to say the least, to get a crew out to repair the down line. Even trying to call AT&T “repair” if only to check on current status of repair proved impossible. They have the only phone service monopoly up here, which may breed a certain care-less attitude towards its customers. And cell phone service (Verizon / AT&T) only functions (1 bar) if I drive up to a higher point off hwy 4. But, you’re right – it’s part of the price I pay for living among the trees and horde of chipmunks and odious woodpeckers, who think my cabin’s upper story would make a good winter home if only I’d let them peck a hole in the siding to make ingress. Which is the only reason I own a bb / 22 caliber pellet gun. 😉

  2. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    HOF picks: Raines. Piazza. Maddox. (Bonds. Clemens.)

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Of course, most Giants fans would likely wish to honor Armando Benitez with a swift non-HOF kick in the rear end.

  3. sandy32koufax says:

    Happy Thanksgiving, Dowders. May your day be filled with fun and festivity.

    I can only see four I’d vote for:

    Glavine, Maddux, Raines and Smith. Gotta like that Richie Sexson even appears on the ballot though.

  4. shaman138 says:

    Wayne Be Butthole really loves the abuse, doesn’t he?

    Anyway, Happy Turkey Day, everyone!

  5. xoot says:

    Happy Turkey Day! I thought this HOF ballot was worth looking over for a few reasons (and I can’t keep up with MOW’s hot-stove stuff). With aging Colon, and young Jh. Peralta and Nelson Cruz all getting good offers, despite their Biogenesis suspensions, the images of Bonds and Clemens in the rearview mirror look more and more sympathetic to me. Both are jerks; but both dominated their era. And neither ever got popped for juicing. If they had been nabbed, however, they could’ve served suspensions without putting the smallest dent in their HOF creds. Bonds probably would have played a couple final years as a DH. Instead, he got the collusion lockout. Colon, Peralta and Cruz? Not so much. And when they juiced it was crystal clear that their PEDs were banned. Bonds and Clemens are by far the most deserving on the ballot.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      I believe that Koufax pitched a clean game (although rumors remain that he chewed a suspicious amount of Juicy Fruit gum on and off the field), but who really knows given there was no significant testing whatsoever from before Ruth up to the modern steroid era. (This opening gambit was probably more an exercise in misdirection).

      MLB were far more negligent in its lax / non-existent policies than the players. Fans wanted it (without knowing for certain how players were giving them what they thought they all wanted). The sports media loved it. And, now, a few years post the new MLB drug-testing policies, ‘everyone’ blames the players of the time for unforgivable crimes against sporting humanity.

      If HOF wants to add an * to the entire steroid-permissive era, so be it. But, even as much as I don’t care much for the bull dog, Clemens, while I still LOVE Bonds – and could care less about what some say about his ‘bad attitude’), they must one day be recognized by the HOF. And, I believe they will … perhaps, before Pete Rose gets ‘recalled’.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        I remember being told that game day sex was bad but Wilts’ first book taught me otherwise. Who are we to question the redoubtable Sanford Braun?

        I ;oved how the game had changed, remember all of the controversy blaming the huge spike in HR production to the baseballs themselves? The comparative “home-run-ishness” of maple bats as opposed to ash? Etc…? Those cats, all of em, knew what was up and ya, so did we all at some point.

        IDK about an entire wing but somehow highlighting, thus forever branding, a players plaque with an asterisk sounds right to me. And I’ve never said or felt that neither Bonds nor Clemens aren’t deserving of HOF honors, only that all guys directly linked to steroids should sit down for a few years, 8-14, before going into the hall…and Rose never gets in. He knew what he chose and the consequences. That’s just real life.

  6. unca_chuck says:

    Well, the numbers suggest about 60% of the players i. The 60s took speed. It was theremin the 20s and 30s as well.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Yeah, of course it got a bit more sophisticated and biologically specific by the 80’s and 90’s, despite some seriously questionable music trends at the time. 😉 And, even as MLB policy now officially targets PED use, any continuing / new use of the latest cheats demand even more stringent penalties. Whether the player’s union agrees or not remains in doubt too. But, one way or the other, neither the past nor its handful of outstanding performers over time – both Bonds and Clemens herein qualify – cannot be fairly swept under the rug.

  7. xoot says:

    I could give a shit less about SEC football, but that Alabama/Auburn game today was a great one.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Ya, eff the SEC and the Big Ten, etc. seriously. That was a great game though. Fucking Fresno St couldn’t take San Wannabe St and somehow every WCAL team that played a public school has been winning this wknd, even a fairly weak 2-8 S.I. beat an 11-0 Burlingame. UCLA is winning right now though, 😉

    • xoot says:

      That article circles around and around ineptly, saying the same things over and again; but it finally gets to the real point–which is why the fuck are Bonds and Clemens blackballed when proven roiders are getting out of jail free and signing FA contracts? It’s a pretty obvious point.

      • unca_chuck says:

        Because perception is reality. Giambi apologized for something he never admitted to and was welcomed back. Pettitt threw his friend under the bus, acted contrite, and was welcomed as well. Both admitted their wrongfullness after being caught. Bonds and Clemens fought the process and suffered the consequences. I knew Melky would get a good deal after getting his ‘vacation’ in 2012. The next logical step is to ignore the busts completely. Braun will be welcomed back in Milwaukee because he said all the things one is supposed to say when one gets busted.

        What was particularly galling to me was the fawning by the media over Bartolo Colon this season. How wondrous it was that he could pitch so well at that age. Really? NO questions about how this could be happening? Gee, is last year’s bust so far off in the distance? It’s why I get so frustrated with the media for going so overboard in their collective contempt for Bonds and Clemens. Seriously, it’s laughable how they think a lame-ass statement like Braun’s recent one means he’s lilly-white and clean now. This was just a one-shot deal even though this is really his 2nd bust,

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Excellent observations, Chuck. The fact this is now being aired in public – as over at Koufax’s Huffington post link (and surely elsewhere) is a good sign that in due course we should expect (because it will eventually be demanded as a simple case of fairness to all) MLB to review its policies … say, by the year 2020. MLB needs its own version of “Pope Francis” to come in shake things up a bit! Selig’s departure is long overdue.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      “Peralta, less than three months after coming back from a suspension, signed a contract not much different than what he would have gotten had he never been linked to steroids while MLB continues to try to destroy Rodriguez’s career and while the BBWAA will almost certainly once again keep some of the game’s greatest players ever, like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens out of the Hall of Fame. Alternating between being forgiving towards players like Peralta and vengeful and petty towards others continues to be baseball’s way of addressing the PED problem. It is an approach that has not worked.”

      Great link, sfdf. The above addresses the arbitrary nature of how the PED ‘problem’ is far from being fairly (equitably) resolved.

  8. Chico says:

    I think I was blocked from SFGate.. Can anyone check? I can’t log in nor can I see my comments. I got into it last night with Mr. PY on the article about the WalMart protestors and I won the argument hands down, so I think I was blocked..

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Chico, are you asking one of us to contact SFGate and ask if you’ve been blocked? Because, in clicking on your last post from yesterday, I see no indication that your avatar has been disabled/deactivated or anything else that might indicate you’ve been ‘banned’. Damn. Ever since Viafoura ‘took over’, SFGate seems to have a quick trigger finger to ban the regulars while evancampbell and cozenedIndigo troll with impunity. In any case, let me know what I need to do to check on your status and I’ll do it first thing in the morning if this hasn’t been resolved by then.

    • xoot says:

      Chico, I think you’re ok on sfgate.

  9. xoot says:

    Here’s what sfgate did to a reply I put up this morning, in connection with a wayno comment that simply quoted Grant Bisbee:

    Content disabled
    Rank 30
    @SlipNslider At least he’s quoting stuff someone else wrote.
    5 hours ago

    • shaman138 says:

      And yet Kenny Krackhead and Wrongo B. Bongo get to troll with impunity, spewing borderline-psychotic drivel. That place is senseless.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      xoot, totally mystifying at this point. I would contact SFGate support and demand an explanation. Let us know what you find. I would be willing to follow up with a contact to SFGate. I think we need to nip this crap ‘in the bud’ before it escalates. None of this, including the apparent arbitrary nature of censoring Chico’s avatar, etc.. If enough of us protest, perhaps, they’ll back off / lighten up a bit if only to avoid fostering increasing ill will – with Giants faithful no less.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        The gate seems utterly arbitrary too often. I’ve asked why this was deleted three times now, still no answer:

        “Content disabled
        sanfradodgerfan Rank 8

        I can think of two govts in the region that will take it to warfare, should they feel the need. Only one is Hebrew.”

        The avatar thing is too odd though.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Actually your Rank is now “5” … while mine moves like a roller coaster. I’m pretty certain that viafoura is using some sort of North Korean approved rocket science ….

  10. mailorderwife says:

    Happy belated Thanksgiving!

    Went to the 49ers game on Sunday. The parking situation was horrendous, and exiting the park almost took two hours. It has *never* taken me that long to ever leave Candlestick, sell out and all. Still, we did the tailgating thing with friends and had a great time discussing the San Francisco Giants. Aside from our excitement at seeing Michael Crabtree, I don’t think any of us were too thrilled about the 49ers as we used to be.

    This was our goodbye to Candlestick. The best game I’ve ever seen there was, hands down, Montana to Clark = Superbowl. There are other great moments, such as Mike Ivey’s grand slam and Willie McCovey’s last game. I’ve even watched a man fall to his death after the 12th consecutive loss by the SF Giants during the 100 loss season of 1985. He supposedly ran up to the railing to scream that the Giants sucked, but a drunk man’s balance is no competition for a fairly low metal fence. I’ve seen Mays, Marichal and the rest play here, and it’s a little sad to know that those little tornadoes of hot dog wrappers that find its death at the outfield fences is a thing of the past.

    Football, by no means, is more exciting than baseball. All six of us found ourselves falling asleep during the game. There are far too many long commercial breaks, and we had no option to change the channel. Possibly a sad statement, but you have to consider that the game of football revolves around television and advertisement. Of course, nothing beats the sheer speed and excitement of hockey, but no one ever says that football is more exciting than fast sports. It’s the trend to make fun of baseball, but it’s a fallacy. Baseball is like no other sport because it keeps its own time.

    • Chico says:

      I agree..Football blows compared to baseball and even soccer.. I’m about finished with it until Cal makes a turnaround–in ten years or so..

      But seriously, no contest.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      What a refreshing and beautiful read, MOW. I especially appreciated the cunning observation that no drunk is the mental equal to any low metal fence. ha! You also captured to perfection, the plight of the discarded, wind-whipped hot dog wrapper. Nice job! And the concluding comment on baseball keeping its own time: nice!!!

      I would only add to observe that the overflow of energy inside a college football stadium – especially during an especially big game – Ducks vs Stanford (and vice versa like when I lived back in Eugene and went to Autzen Stadium more than once to experience such an adrenalin rush) is like nothing else. It’s a “happening” kind of local event that once experienced can never be forgotten.

      • mailorderwife says:

        I have to agree about college football. My sister went to the University of Spoiled Children and worked with the football team, so she brought me to many a USC game. This was back when “Tusk” had just made its way onto a Fleetwood Mac album, so the combination of excellent football (back then), the band and goofy rabid football fans was insane. I might have mentioned before that I had gotten a dupe Rose Bowl seat, and the old geezers who had the same ticket just sat their big butts onto the benches. The ushers brought my long purple haired self to the blonde sorority, where a leggy blonde asked me questions about my hair and clothing. It was non-stop chatter (2 halves, gentlemen!) of that sort, and I was sort of hoping she was on acid or something to explain her line of inane conversation. Probably prepping to become a future sports wife.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          MOW, ha! Speaking of USC, I was living in Spokane, WA at the time USC came to play the Cougars in Pullman. I got a ticket and went down to see Tod Marinovich pull out the game in the last 4 frickin’ minutes of the game – marching the team from their own 4 yard line, making 2 4th down conversions along the way to make a touchdown with no time on the clock, still trailing however by a 16-17 score. The Trojans went for two points and damn if they didn’t make that too, winning the game 18-17. One of the best games I ever threw my voice out on. Unforgettable. Of course, Marinovich went on to a highly successful LA Raiders career … NOT! 😉

          • mailorderwife says:

            Ahh…Marinovich…a name from the past. My sister gave me football signed by Marcus Allen, Ronnie Lott, Keith whatshisname and a bunch of other future stars that were at USC. Of course, the x-boyfriend “borrowed” it and never returned it.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              Heya MOW! Fun times for me at both of the venues the socal teams play at. Hope your trip was magical and you never forget all of those great times at The Stick. Hate to say it but I’m going to miss that place.

  11. Chico says:

    Content disabled
    SF Giants announce Ryan Vogelsong deal, plus how much he will earn
    @chico_state Someone flagged my post because of good humor? Holy ***, what a joke!

    And then I have this dude Chico_Escuela running around. I have an admirer it appears.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      The new SFGate ‘over-seers’ are behaving more like grade school monitors of the sand box playground. Unbelievable.

  12. shaman138 says:

    Wayne’s-Been-Banned. Zapped again. There’s a certain liquor store on International Blvd. that’s about to see a lot of business from a bitter old man. Stock up on the Four Loco–Evan’s on the way!

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Sweet! And, yeah, it’s about time. … of course, give Wayne about 37 minutes, give or take an hour to come up with another IP re-router, another alias. Of course, the harder part will be coming up with a ‘new and improved’ shtick to throw off the gate dogs for another indeterminate spell.

  13. datswhatsup says:


    Wow and I really WAS Wayno’s huckleberry, too.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Yep, like Val Kilmer, you nailed him right between his unblinking eyeballs. 🙂

    • xoot says:

      You pinned him back in 2011 and he has squirmed grotesquely ever since. why he doesn’t just quit and let it go I’ll never understand. Maybe he’s tryng cold turkey right now.

  14. xoot says:

    That’s good news. I better check, though. I may be banned, too. Wayno was flagging every comment I left. The “virago in the macho gaucho pants won’t let up” pissed him off, apparently.

    • datswhatsup says:


      Every pseudo intellectual’s worst fear is to be exposed, your “virago” comment was game set and match (he was not banned he cancelled his account), so he’ll take his breather and slither back when he figures others forgot what was behind the curtain (or is it skirt?). I think Wayno Virago will be my new pet name.

      I have enjoyed how he avoids me since Fredo’s Dog caused WBB to lose his mind and get banned. I posted that I think his negativity was at the root of all the bad feedback that seemed to be popping up where his “books” were sold. I laughed knowing he spent hours checking and rechecking for posts on his blogs and Amazon.

      You know that character Buzz Killington? That’s Wayno Virago. The guy at every party who can’t let a story go without trying to top it or can’t let an opinion (an effing opinion) on something as subjective as Coke or Pepsi go without explaining why yours is wrong.

      This steaming load has convinced himself that the reason no one chooses to interact with him is not because he is a needle dicked bore, but it’s because his intellect scares them.

      It’s wrong, it’s petty, it’s wasted calories…but I gotta admit I love his misery, it actually makes me a little happy.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        So he wasn’t banned. but, rather self-imposed exile (even if only momentary). hmmm. A very strange if strained case of overtly grandiose virtual self-delusion. Kudos to xoot for his stunning game, set, and match coup that no one thought could be done under the uncertain banner of viafoura.

        • shaman138 says:

          Speaking of wasted calories, I’m sure Wayne-Sauce is over at the Church’s on Telegraph right now, drowning his sorrows in grease and fried hopelessness.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      “The ‘virago in the macho gaucho pants won’t let up’ [really] pissed him off …. lol – that was truly muy magnifico. inspired even. 😀

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      ha! ha! The Crimson Red Diagonal Dagger O’ Death.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Not incidentally, “Citizen Kane” remains one of the most remarkable of early 20th century film exercises. Backed by a simple but beautifully crafted A+ screenplay. Let “Rosebud” be a cautionary tale to all of childhood innocence lost – and not always of one’s own making.

  15. Chico says:

    sabeansdwarfs: Commented on “49ers stadium: S.F. mayor has slim hopes”
    12/6/2011 8:21 AM

    **As a tax-paying Oaklander**, I would like to say “Take the Raiders…please!”

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Interesting side note in that my IGNORE option is still working for “sabeansdwarf” via the link you provided, Chico. My general preference (option) was to “ignore,” hence, never feed the bears. However, this policy takes both discipline and time to work – maybe, somewhat like the Iran embargo. Because, the troll, by nature seeks attention – and even negative recognition is better than no acknowledgement whatsoever. Starve the troll long enough and he dies by the self-inflicted sword of his own boredom. But, a troll embargo takes far more discipline and time than most blogs possess at any one moment in time.

      • shaman138 says:

        It took the Temescal Tool less than a day to bring the “sabeansdwarfs” account back out of the closet and go viral with his tired, redundant comments. And he’s back to calling Buster “The Poser” again, I see. He’s good as a sedative, to be sure–if the insomnia is too much, just read his idiocy and you’ll be fast asleep in no time.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          I never saw him using that screenname but I did follow chico’s linx and blocked all of those accts 😉

          Stupid is as stupid does, I suppose…

      • xoot says:

        I’m not seeing any sabeansdwarfs comments on sfgate. Maybe I have that one locked on “ignore” also.

        • shaman138 says:

          Those are actually old comments from 2011, back when he was basking in Buster’s injury just like the ghoul that he is. I’ve known he’s hated the Raiders for awhile–he was gleefully gloating and celebrating like the ghoul that he is when Al Davis passed away. Buzzing little Temescal termites like him need to get their rocks off somehow, I guess.

          • Chico says:

            Yeah, they’re a couple of his old accounts.. I’m sure there are others I’m not aware of, or can’t remember.. Something ‘polly’

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Expected, but still, terribly sad. Great man, loving and forgiving and infinitely patient.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        What an amazing picture, Chico posted. A man who spends some 26 years – 1/3 of his life – in prison, who looks even from this intimate photograph like he had found some enlightened spiritual path to walk that perhaps transcended a mere mortal’s existence.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Something ‘strange’ is occurring over at SFGate. All the comments have disappeared … they must be engaged in some kind of house-keeping / cleaning up of now vindictive sabeandwarf’s counter offensive of vomit spewing and wholly unimaginable horrors. 🙂

  16. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Courtesy MOW’s morning headlines (thanks!), “Houston Astros have acquired Dexter Fowler and played to be named from Rockies for OF Brandon Barnes and RHP Jordan Lyles.”

    I guess there must have been a set of reason(s) Sabean was unable to compete with the towering Rockies in order to pickup Fowler? He looks to be a marked improvement for the Rockies over Barnes. Does anyone know if Fowler was ever on Sabean’s radar screen?

  17. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    “Viafoura” … talk about a job I’d never want to apply for! 😉

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Still no “comments” showing on any SFGate Giants link. Perhaps, Wayno Virago has retaliated by calling on his secret stash of cavalry hacking utility buds and done a doobie on Viafoura? Either way, something’s crashed and/or otherwise something not usual going on presently at SFGate. The melodramatic off season soap opera crap of villainous trolls n’ hacks has perhaps turned for the momentary worse or may seeming have no shut-down routine. Now may be the time to really look to “The Power of Viafoura” to execute their thorough vermin fumigation and rodent eradication program.

  18. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Yes, it looks like all the clone accounts (gnatsrock, etc.) are currently under review by viafoura. This may explain why they’ve locked the SFGate comments sections (although the Splash already appears back as it was).

  19. Chico says:

    If you read the Mandela Story, and you see the 4 or 5 asshole comments, that’s our friend PY… If you reply to the asshole, he’ll have all of your comments removed.. What a fucking douche bag he is.. I would pay $500 just to meet up with him and kick the living shit out of him (yes, I would break my promise to my wife), just for his dumb ass. EDIT: That pussy would sue me..

    • xoot says:

      PY’s a PussY indeed. I have developed a serious loathing for that lawyer. Maybe you and I and Sandy should stop by his office. It’s right by the BART station. I’ve attended a number of depositions there. We could invite him to lunch. 😉

  20. xoot says:

    Berkeley in the 80s–Nuclear Freeze; Nuclear Free Zone; Central American movements in support of the Sandinistas and the FMLN in El Salvador and against the genocide in Guatemala; the Livermore Action Group (anybody remember THAT Brian Wilson, who lost his legs on the RR tracks out at Concord?); and the Anti-Apartheid movement. A lot of action in those days on Shattuck, near La Peña, the Starry Plough and one of Flint’s BBQ’s spots. Cynics called it “Little Managua.” I loved it. One group I worked with voted to join the occupation on the lawns next to Sproul Hall, in support of the Anti-Apartheid protests there. I spent a very chilly night sleeping on that grass. I remember hearing “Free–Nelson Mandela!” over and over. Also the more anguished “Biko.”

    My god did that man rise to the occasion when he in fact got free. What a giant.

    • xoot says:

      btw, the Biko song I had in mind was performed by the astonishing singers Sweet Honey in the Rock, although Peter Gabriel’s entirely different song Biko later was welcome at the time.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        The 80’s were exciting. No adventure sounded too bizarre or unrealistic. But ya, music I’d never imagined was everywhere and I loved it. Music like Biko or FNM I’d always associated with campus life or the communities right around them. When Free Nelson Mandela was huge, I was still torturing myself in Fresno’s “cosmopolitan” Tower District or hanging with the Peninsula/Valley friends at Fresno St. I heard Peter Gabriel’s version of Biko all the time but have never heard Sweet Honey’s v. Fuck…we really have seen some history in our day.

        Mandela was…whatever he needed to be. Jefferson may have had a peer.

        Cool posts, x-man. I remember some of what you described. Good times at a wild place. Lucky you 😉

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Great clip, xoot. Performed just 6 years shy of his eventual release from prison. He may have went into prison a revolutionary spirit of a higher order, because when he came out, his method of breaking apartheid and healing division – by inviting the white South Africans to join him (if I got it right) – was very much in the mode of a Ghandi, or transcendent shaman of the most gentle and benevolent kind.

      • xoot says:

        Who knows what deals went down before Mandela got released, but he still accomplished some tremendous things. I think his election as President was the first nationwide democratic vote in the country, and obviously he both led and represented the final defeat of Apartheid. btw, I thought the Obama remarks about Mandela I heard on the radio while I was driving home tonight were pretty damn good.

        In West Oakland, the site of the freeway that crumbled in the 89 earthquake is now home to Mandela Parkway, a surprisingly pleasant stretch of four ground-level lanes with a wide grassy median. Great restaurant there, too–Brown Sugar.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          I had reason to be at AmericanSteel on Mandela all the time and drove by that place frequently. It looked busy in the mornings. I never ate there but had some coffee cake or some such of theirs-it was pretty good. Obama gave one of his best speeches this afternoon.

  21. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Maybe the reason I couldn’t get Chico’s “live streaming” link to work is that everyone died just minutes before I logged on. In any case, Xoot’s condensation remains consistent with what Sabean has been saying the public media all along.

    I take heart from what he says. OTOH, many an SFGate blogger will continue to say that Sabean is an inept nincompoop. Because, being general manager is nothing but a part time day job that any couch potato could do with but a simpleton’s snap of the finger, fury of the whip, and the all too common powers of a mythical James Bond demeanor at some high stakes poker table, stealing gold right from under the villainous Goldfinger’s very nose. Permitting the sarcasm to continue unabated, Ned Colletti is the worst kind of a moron for re-signing Wilson to such an preposterous 2 year, $19 million dollar contract. I mean, Wilson’s beard alone warranted at the very least, a three year, $33 million dollar contract, with additional full whisker growth incentives for any whisker(s) that reach down to the mound upon which B-Weezy stands. (I for one still hate the fact, Wilson is a Dodger. It would have been more fun to view him in a Tiger uni.)

    • sandy32koufax says:

      You guys have been crackin wise pretty funny today. You should do a search for it on CSNwhatever;) it’s really informative and candid.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Mostly though, it’s sincere and they seemed very relaxed doing the show. Even Larry The Baer.

        • Chico says:

          I left the house to meet up with some people for a good cause.. If you haven’t heard;

          I know both *sets* of parents.. Annika had her kidney removed today, and Bella started chemo the day after thanksgiving I believe. Poor little girl lost all of her hair already and I’m told she’s hysterical.. Of course she is. No kid should ever have to go through this shit. I know so many people battling cancer right now it’s crazy, but kids?. . . My wife handles these things much better than I do, that’s for sure. btw, if it makes any difference to the ‘lurkers’, both families are huge Giants fans who could use your prayers/best wishes/good vibes–whatever you do when you get in a bind..

          • shoelessinbearvalley says:

            “‘Johnson had surgery this week to remove her kidney and is now facing chemotherapy treatments’ … Hung has started, what will be years of chemotherapy treatments. They started almost immediately after her diagnosis … ‘She’s doing pretty good, but she’s in a lot of pain,’ said Hung’s classmate Lola Lyles, ‘I think that everyone really misses her. Everyone hopes she feels good soon.'”

            The most hopeful (good) news is that, “The families say the types of cancer involved have at least a 90 to 95 percent survival rate.”

          • sandy32koufax says:

            When kids are hit by something like cancer it always kills me too, Chico. My thoughts and prayers of comfort for these little ones and those in their lives.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        It was reported on this morning’s KNBR Murph n’ Mac show that Wilson in getting $10M, 1 year (instead of the reported $18-19M, 2 years). If true, again, not the greatest show of confidence in Wilson’s ‘durability’ by Ned. No one can blame him – seems like the smarter move. Meanwhile, as Kruk noted, the fact Wilson re-signed with the Dodgers suggests it’s more about money than anything else, given the interest Detroit showed in him to be their closer. Players who sign strictly for the money risk losing their soul in the longer run.

        • xoot says:

          What? The bums didn’t give Wilson that player option for next year?

          • unca_chuck says:

            I though he got an option for 2015 as well. Another $9 mill.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              Cot’s says he signed with an option for ’15.

              • xoot says:

                Yep, a one-sided player option. Amazing. What are the odds he has some no-trade terms, too.

              • shoelessinbearvalley says:

                Yeah, the somewhat more modest $8.5 million player option for 2015 might yet prove “an arm too far” for Wilson. I can help but wonder if Wilson re-signed with LAD while harboring guarded hopes that Kenley Jansen will falter (or go on the DL) thus letting B-weezy get his coveted job back, or if he is more resigned to the fact his days as a closer are now past tense and past the torture?

  22. unca_chuck says:

    Strange. I really thought Wilson would hold out for a closer spot. Bird in the hand I guess. Or not much interest.

    League gets $22 mill to set up, and now Wilson gets $10 mill to set up?

    KJ the closer gets half a mill. Go figure.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      League sux. Trade him, if they can, for a second baseman or a utility guy with a good stick…if he exists.

      Dodgers have three contracts that they’re going to have eat-Beckett’s is the worst. Crawford’s is a close second. Bills’ contract though, since he retired, are they on the hook for the money and if so, all of it?

      • xoot says:

        The Braves are trying to get rid of Uggla. Sounds like Ned’s sort of deal!

        • sandy32koufax says:

          Naw, his picks need to hit at least Mendoza

        • xoot says:

          But Uggla’s rebounding, like Beckett.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            I really hope you don’t stub your toe getting into the shower later…

            • shoelessinbearvalley says:

              While Uggla’s stats since 2011 are not stand outs, what does stand out when conducting a routine Dan Uggla search is the link that boldly asserts, “Dan Uggla Cheats on Wife”. This kind of honest and candid news report is where the internet simply excels like nothing else our grandmother-in-laws enjoyed in their day sitting round the Tupperware table.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Chuck, while details have not yet been made public, Detroit’s offer to be their closer apparently displeased Wilson. His decision to be the blue-beard (okay, it’s observably more black) “set-up” stud for LAD would suggest that the money – at least for 2014 – spoke louder than being a ‘blue collar’ closer for Detroit.

  23. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    This one’s for Mom, MOW’s everywhere, and those of us (including myself) who may not e attending gender sensitive training seminars:

    “A Glimpse At How The Media Treated Women This Year Is A Look At Way Too Many Cringe-Worthy Moments” — (click on the “play” button – no advertisements, just a straight-forward video presentation on the subject of women and the media – notice FOX News gets special attention.)

    • sandy32koufax says:

      I liked that. Cool find, shoeless

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Sadly too true, btw. It must suck in so many ways to not be a man. Especially a white man.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Worse yet, an ignorant / ideologically blinded, hence, irrational white man. The gun and red neck sometimes come pro bono, alas.

    • mailorderwife says:

      Excellent, and thank you. SFDF knows a bit of what went down at my old job, where I became untouchable after they laid off 17 minority woman. Of course, I was the only one in the company of over 300+ to complain. The company’s next move? Hire 3 new female minority journalists.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        You so did the right thing-every step of the way. There’s no accountability if there’s no one keeping an eye on offenders. I hope the company had a good insure policy and those 17 laid off employees had a case to win.

  24. Chico says:

    Datswhatsup, I’m using your material to clown on Dodgers fans on facebook.. It;s too good not to steal.

  25. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Question: Who is “CozinedIndigo” over at SFGate? I see he’s referred by us here as Kenny. But is he ‘related’ to “Mossback”? or “Glib”? He’s clearly an A’s troll-basket-case, possibly in the initial / final stages of some form of withdrawal. Sometimes I wish I could help – hell, I remember once – and only once – back in 2010 suggesting to barry4ever that he try finding more of a life in the “offline” world then come back to the party – because his online engagement at SFGate appeared to be some form of growing (which I never confided this part) mental illness. Alas, I know all of us – even the lost Wayne’s, Jim’s, and Kenny’s – are far better off in the caring, compassionate, and hopefully eventually, all almighty hands of viafoura …. 🙂

    • xoot says:

      shoeless, shoot me an email at xootsuit / yahoo, if you get a chance.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Incoming … (awoke to 2 feet of snow this morning – deck cleared for winter deck chair / snow gazing :))

        • sandy32koufax says:

          May I recommend a snifter of some high voltage yet flavorful and aromatic liqueur? Bundle warmly and enjoy. Repeat process as desired…

          • shoelessinbearvalley says:

            As my Dad used to be fond of saying, “Son, you’ve seen one snow flake, you’ve seen ’em all.” Of course, I doubted him at the time, because my brothers and I all loved to sled. But, that still doesn’t mean he wasn’t on to something cogent, especially whenever it comes to shoveling too many flakes all at the same time.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              Sounds like your father was smart. He was tired of moving snow to make room for more snow 😉 and wanted you to be move it more quickly. I love to LOOK at the snow. To play in it for short periods is good for me too. I won’t live in it ever again. It’s too damn cold for my comfort. Guess I really am a flatlander.

  26. sandy32koufax says:

    The guy throwing footballs at halftime of the SEC Championship game throws like a girl and the girl he is throwing against throws like a guy. The winner was named Brook(e?). The guy. I was rooting for the girl.

    • xoot says:

      he thanked god for his victory, though. He definitely has cracker cred.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Fuck the SEC. 7 straight BCS championships is proof that college ball needs to go where they didn’t want to pre-BCS, to a true play-off system based on solid criteria. It should be a multi-tiered system, not unlike our own CCS and CIF playoffs. College FB starts a week or two before HS’s do, so each conf. could start their seasons at least a week earlier. Sports like FB aren’t like Gymnastics and shouldn’t rely on anything other than wins and losses.

  27. mailorderwife says:

    Like watching A’s ownership

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      lol … jaw dropping unbelievable. I still don’t know what was going on, but I’m pretty sure by the time this is posted, the law enforcement authorities will have the black (Toyota?) in custody and maybe the wheezened, middle age man with the threatening black mustache too for inciting a one car riot.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        That’s hilarious. I kept wondering who was driving the SUV. Underage Kid? A car-jacker? Drunk or unlicensed driver??? Sad and screwy that no one actually tried to intervene. Not too many “good sams” anymore.

  28. mailorderwife says:

    In light of your collective bad experiences with board management, I present Roger Goodell carefully considering every comment.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      “For instance, Mark Turner [alias or the real mark turner? ha!] supposedly recently made an excellent point about the excessive nature of Mike Tomlin’s fine, which I’m now reevaluating. Likewise, Sean Farnsworth’s remarks had me rethinking the league’s attitude toward protecting quarterbacks, which he believes comes at the cost of aggressive play calling by defenses … And obviously Mark Henderson’s suggestion yesterday that ‘the Chargers fucking suck’ is equally thought-provoking,” Goodell added. That’s certainly something I’m going to reflect upon … as well as one user’s contention that Raiders running back Darren McFadden is “a broken-down bum” unworthy of a contract extension, Goodell admitted that some fan suggestions, while highly insightful and well-reasoned, cannot be addressed at a league level and are simply out of his hands.”

      Goodell obviously missed his calling as a blogger, himself, demonstrating the essentials: dry wit and a flair for sarcasm.

    • xoot says:

      There’s a lesson there, huh?

      Used to be a good Mexican restaurant on Grand Ave. in Oakland run by talented Mexicanos who first thing every morning bought a couple of Chronicles and Tribunes to put on a shelf for people to read while they ate their huevos and carnitas tacos. Somebody used to bring the East Bay Express by, as well. And somebody else regularly delivered hot off the press copies of the Onion. The Mexicanos thought it was just another gringo newspaper. (They sold the place and the food went downhill, but it’s still ok. No more Onion, however. And I hear that recently the Onion discontinued the hard-copy edition. Too bad.)

  29. sandy32koufax says:

    I saw you on the stadium blog yesterday, xoot. Is dmoas our good buddy mb?

    Anyway, if what I’ve read about this letter is true, what are the chances of the judge reading it w/o allowing for discovery and kicking the case? Per your entries in the past, discovery is a bad thing for MLB.

    • xoot says:

      Discovery should be limited now, even if it goes forward. It may not go forward at all, however, either because mlb will get the small remaining claims tossed, or because the judge will stay proceedings, pending resolutioin of the state-court case concerning the land option agreement and pending resolution of an appeal of the A/T order (assuming the judge enters judgment on that order).

      dmoas is one of the few A’s fans on that blog who doesn’t lose control when discussing issues with a Giants fan. Their hatred of the Giants is a peculiar thing. They also fight among themselves over there–on one side, the stAy in Oklnd crowd vs. the other side come to San Jose–the only city in the Bay Area with smog–crowd. But at least I finally got them to pay attention to the Sports Law Blog, where a Prof. from U. Georgia covers the mlb A/T issues. He’s the leading authority, these days; I’ve corresponded with him via email a few times. Pleasant guy. He has a book coming out next year about the baseball A/T exemption. An article he published in U.C. Davis Law Review a few years back is by far the most thorough history and best analysis of the mlb A/T exemption legal issues I’ve seen. google it–his name is Nathaniel Grow.

  30. sandy32koufax says:

    Thanks for the info, I googled Grow but will read it after the game. I just watched Whitner maybe fuck up this game for the niners…

  31. mailorderwife says:

    New post up!

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