BASEBALL NEWS, WEEK OF 11/4 – 11/10

Friday, November 8
TV Today:
NBA: Golden State Warriors v. San Antonio Spurs – 5:30 pm PST/CSN Bay Area

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Thursday, November 7
TV Today:
NFL: Washington Deadskins v. Minnesota Vikings – 5:25 pm PST/NFL Network
NHL: San Jose Sharks v. Vancouver Canucks – 7:00 pm PST/CSN Bay Area (recommended!!!!)

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Wednesday, November 6
News
(up. 4:11 p.m.) The Chicago Cubs have hired Rick Renteriaas their new manager.
(up. 10:39 a.m.) Yasiel Pig‘s drunk driving charge has been dismissed.

TV Today:
NBA: Golden State Warriors v. Minnesota Timberwolves – 5:00 pm PST/CSN Bay Area

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Tuesday, November 5
News
(up. 2:06 p.m.) Per PSBJ news, the Seattle Marinaros will name Detroit Tigers hitting coach Lloyd McClendon as their new manager, a source close to team says.
(up. 12:39 p.m.) Per Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, the Texass Rangers have signed C Geovany Soto to a one-year deal worth $3,050,000 plus incentives.

TV Today:
NHL: Buffalo Sabres v. San Jose Sharks – 7:30 pm PST/CSN Bay Area
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Monday, November 4
News
(up. 5:51 p.m.) Per Adam Rubin (ESPN), Francisco Liriano wins the NL Comeback Player of the Year.
(up. 11:53 a.m.) Per Andrew Boogerly, The Colorado Rookies have exercised their 2014 4.25m option on RHP Matt Belisle.
(up. 8:59 a.m.) David DeJesus and the Tampa Bay Rays have agreed upon a new 2 yr. contract.

San Francisco Giants News
(up. 5:51 p.m.) Per Andrew Boogerly, Ryan Vogelsong is set to test the open market.
(up. 11:53 a.m.) Per Andrew Boogerly, the team is interested in Tim Hudson.
(up. 9:29 a.m.) Per Andrew Baggerly, OF Gustavo Cabrera, who signed for $1.3 million last year, sustained a major off-field injury (severe lacerations in his wrist that has required surgery).

News
(up. 8:59 a.m.) David DeJesus and the Tampa Bay Rays have agreed upon a new 2 yr. contract.

TV Today:
NBA: Golden State Warriors v. Philadelphia 76ers – 4:00 pm PST/CSN Bay Area
NFL Monday Night: Chicago Bears v. Green Bay Peckers – 5:40 pm PST/ESPN

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229 Responses to BASEBALL NEWS, WEEK OF 11/4 – 11/10

  1. mailorderwife says:

    Per Chico:

    Wow. MLB may help A’s play in SF if no deal. Discuss!!

    • xoot says:

      I think mlb’s just strong-arming the E Coli JPA. I doubt mlb could force the Giants to accept the two-team arrangement without a 3/4 vote of the owners, but mlb could offer the Giants some very fine incentives. Rent would be just the beginning. Ultimate disposition of the A’s might be the big payoff. I still think there’s an agreement in principle in place behind the scenes with the A’s holding out on the amount they’re willing to pay the Giants to turn the Bay Area into a true two-team territory (like LA, Chicago and NY). If the Giants take the A’s in for a couple of years, they’ll be due big time. Hell, just by staying silent now as mlb floats the idea of two teams at China Basin the Giants are earning huge good will with the other owners. (Let’s see if Baer in fact does stay silent, or tractably neutral.)

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Yeah, I can see it now, our historic Willie McCovey and Willie Mays banners waving so proudly in the stadium wind side by side with classic Jose Canseco and Reggie Jackson banners. Not gonna happen!

      Maybe even erect a temporary statue to Sal Bando kitty corner to McCovey Cove.

      Seriously, the A’s have a better chance of applying for a 2 year pass to Candlestick Park?

      • sandy32koufax says:

        The Stick would be an upgrade, at this point, to O.co. I wonder if the greedy developers would rent it out short-term to Wolffie…

  2. xoot says:

    Pretty good article here on the heavyweight bout going on in ARod’s arbitration proceedings/imbroglio:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/04/sports/baseball/in-rodriguez-arbitration-two-sides-play-hardball.html?ref=sports

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      “Yet, once the league had Mr. Bosch’s cooperation, the intensity of each side’s investigations hardly diminished.” Rodriguez (and his crack “dream team” of attorneys, consisting of Johnnie Cochran, Robert Shapiro, and F. Lee Bailey?) is proving to be as formidable a target as Roger Clemons.

      Even so, the whole process is pretty convoluted and messy, to say the least.

      This thing has it all: Mr. Firestone’s recanted ‘tip’, the mysterious sexual innuendo between Ms Moon and Mr. Mullin (who denies anything “inappropriate” :)), to a 79 year old Selig, with plans (thankfully!) to retire. I wouldn’t be at all surprised that Alex’s defense pulls off a Clemons type victory, but nothing he can do will save his shriveled reputation.

      • xoot says:

        McCovey played a small part of one season for Oakland. Maybe an A’s hat could hang from the top of the bat on his statue to signify that the A’s are in town. Otherwise, I don’t think the A’s would get much of that ugly yellow into China Basin for two years. Maybe a shot of the Mt. Davis tarp would fill the big scoreboard screen. That’d make it seem more like home to the few A’s fans who’d attend the games.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          lol … on the positive side, maybe this is SF’s only chance to soothe the three most bitter A’s fans, who constantly whine and bitch how their A’s just don’t get enuf Bay Area respect. Those bitter A’s fans are not only the worst ‘ambassadors’ for their team, they are their own worst enemies. Bottom line, if it were actually possible to come to the aid of A fallen sister city, then I’m for doing whatever it takes to tide them over for two years.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      $$$$$ and egos. Threats of blackmail, possible extortion, fraud and death threats. This, Ladies and Gentlemen, is your 21st Century MLB…

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Yes. Cheating is the sole responsibility of MLB. For too long it has behaved like an under regulated Wall Street. Leaving it the players (or high stakes bankster derivative bidders) is only asking for all the trouble such under regulated policies fermented.

        We can hope that with a new commissioner, a major course correction occurs … but in the back of my head I keep hear Roger Daltrey and Pete Townsend singing their iconic refrain. Or to borrow from the ‘late’ George W. Bush, “Fool me once … ugh … err shame on me … fool me twice … errrr … ughhh … won’t get fooled again!” 😀

  3. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    MOW, “… the Green Bay Peckers?!!” You are a malicious and cunning credit to that lil keyboard of yours. …Goooooo Bears!

  4. mailorderwife says:

    Adam Schefter from ESPN posted these series of tweets from Incognito, the now suspended Miami Dolphin, to the the poor fella who had been harassed:

    1: Richie Incognito left this VM for Jonathan Martin in April 2013: “Hey, wassup, you half n—– piece of (expletive)…
    2. More Incognito to Martin: “I saw you on Twitter, you been training ten weeks. (I want to) (expletive) in your (expl) mouth….
    3. Incognito VM to Martin: “(I’m going to) slap your (expletive) mouth. (I’m going to) slap your real mother across the face (laughter).
    4. Incognito to Martin, all on same VM in April 2013: “(Expletive) you, you’re still a rookie. I’ll kill you.”

    Here is the link to the story: The Miami Dolphins suspend veteran Richie Incognito. Stanford grad, btw.

    Discuss!

    • xoot says:

      I think Martin’s the Stanford guy. Compare this walk-away to the Adrian Cárdenas story about why he quit mlb. I’m having a real tough time following professional football these days. The constant injuries during games, the concussion reveleations, and this sort of nastiness are all starting to overshadow the sport, the incredible athlecticism, etc. The Dolphin vets sound like PED-fueled monstrosities.

      • mailorderwife says:

        I’m with you, Xoot. Football’s charm has worn off since Crabtree’s non-signing, and it has continued to wane with the re-signing of Michael Vick, the whole Ray Lewis murder thing and Dez Bryant beating his mama. Aldon Smith is included in this, along with the glaring lack of discipline or attention coming from the 49er front office. Last year’s whole IT GET’S BETTER debacle by the 49ers, where they employed homophobic players to take part in the commercial, was the final straw. I am fine with going from baseball to hockey to baseball. Jason Demers, Brent Burns, Adam Burish and one other Shark spent all day playing Call of Duty on Twitch yesterday, trying to raise money for charitable causes. You could watch them play live, and they’re all just pretty awesome dudes. Aside from missing teeth, you don’t get players who beat their mamas or tie their female pitbulls to devices for breeding purposes.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        This is not a new thing. I’ve heard guys from as far back as Hank Sauer and Leo Nomellini tell unbelievable tales about “hazing” and/or outright hatred and the mistreatment which accompanied it, of certain players. Back then, it was blacks and asians that bore the brunt of their “attentions” simply because of their racial origins. In today’s world of Big Time sports, it’s far likelier to be someone different in subtler was than merely ones skin color.

        I’ve read a several articles about this particular situation and IDK if he was just an easy target that didn’t deal well with “The Program” which further fueled “the fun,” or if Incognito had some other reason to continue his abuse of Martin. Whatever the “cause,” this really is a microcosm of how many people treat each other. I don’t remember that ad campaign’s slogan about bullying MLB did two or three yrs ago but it’s funny how people want to say “Man up,” etc., when the psychology of any abusiveness is that the victim, usually, doesn’t have the tools to do so. Yes, even full-grown men that stand 6-5 and weigh in excess of 300 lbs can be cowed.

        I find it interesting, BTW, that the NFL office acted semi-swiftly and suspended Incognito indefinitely but still hasn’t addressed Aldon Smith in manner other than “We’ll leave that to the 49ers until we need to actually “DO” something.” Apples and oranges? Not really. What Smith has done is also a pattern of behavior, possibly mitigated by a substance addiction, which is reckless and a direct threat to the well-being of others in his presence. At least while he’s drunk, stoned or trippin…

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          All good points, Xoot, MOW, and SFDF. But Leo Nomellini? Wow, that takes us back a spell.

          Murph and Mac (KNBR) covered the bullying topic this morning in their usual rapid fire style, but made a number of good points. It was apparently common practice, for example, that Charles Hayley constantly bullied Bill Romanowski … until R punched H in the face, I guess. But as Murph (or was it Mac?) pointed out, bullying is something “passed” down – like a born into “lineage” – not unsimilar to the collegiate hazing tradition where one gets bullied as a freshman only to become the ‘learned’ bully later on.

          And, yet, the most damning thing said – because so revealing about the game of football, itself – on the program this morning was that if truth be told, most football coaches would prefer a Richie Incognito type over a Jonathon Martin on the field of play any day.

          Baseball, by comparison, remains a “kinder, gentler” game. Other than Puig’s antics this year, it remains more of a game than a bloody contest between gladiators encouraged / trained to ‘kill’.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            I have no doubt these types of behaviors go back to the pre Athens Olympic games. I’m always amazed but never shocked when anyone does things like this.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              OOPS! Meant to write “I have no doubt these types of behaviors go back to the pre Athens Olympic games “world of sports,” such as it may have been.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Pretty creepy stuff. I’ve only followed the story peripherally, but the bully claim appears wholly justified. Incidentally, Incognito redshirted at the University of Nebraska in 2001. A cornhusker. Right smack dab in the middle of ‘the heartland’, or as some might describe it, Redneck Central.

      From Rand Paul’s very own fully unattributed Wickipedia sources,

      “Incognito was shifted to center during preseason camp in 2004; however, a series of off-field incidents culminated in his suspension before the 2004 season by the coaching staff. Soon after, he left the school and enrolled at the University of Oregon in late September. He never practiced with the team as he was cut for not meeting unspecified conditions after just a week on campus in Eugene. [5”

      I lived in Eugene during this time and followed the Ducks pretty closely. I never heard of an Incognito … until now.

      The Dolphins appear to have hired a really ‘live’ one this time. If he couldn’t make it at Oregon for “unspecified” (but likely disciplinary / grade issues), it appears his suspension from the Dolphins may be the final nail in his now 30 year old do-it-yourself coffin plans.

  5. sandy32koufax says:

    I just saw this…funny shit:

    “xoot Rank 29
    Oh, I think a travel writer derided for his banality and incompetence treks a much sadder, lonelier planet.”

    • mailorderwife says:

      hahahahaha very very well done!!!

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        My rank started out at 81, dropped to 102 within the week and now it’s up into the thousands …. Obviously, Viafoura’s software was programmed by a “Voodoo Economics” major and not someone particularly math savvy.

  6. sandy32koufax says:

    Apparently, we may write what we plaese at the gate…

    “fotobike Rank 428
    What you were thinking was you were about to get fucking shot.
    Fuck Andy.”

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      I think foto’s ‘fucking’ finish may be nigh? (I couldn’t find said fucking post this fucking morning, in spite of my best, fucking intentions. Oh, and fuck Andy, too – even if I don’t know who the fuck he is, not never quite understood how such a notion is successfully executed with two woefully oversexed dudes).

      What I like about this site is … censorship is kind of like home … home on the range … where seldom is heard a discouraging word … home, home on the range. (This place feels more like “home” to me. :))

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Hey, SFDF, are you experiencing now routine auto-censoring at SFGate? Seems as if they saw your post here and then a 180?!! I mean, when I posted Lincecum’s name, it was changed to read “Lince***”. Wow! SFGate hired an amateur bunch of viafoura hacks and swindlers.

  7. shaman138 says:

    Re: Football–My interest in this sport has plummeted to new and uncharted depths in the last couple of weeks. The injuries and concussions have seemingly skyrocketed, including the Aaron Rodgers injury, the T. Pryor concussion in the Donko game that was a blatant helmet-to-helmet hit that was ignored, and many more. The Culliver/It Gets Better fiasco last year, the Aldrunk Smith affair, and players that turn out to be murderers. Not to mention Goodell paying lip-service to the injury problem but allowing them to continue anyway, encouraging an extended season. Bountygate. Now the Inslobnito affair. And Harbaugh’s riduclous sideline tantrums…the list goes on and on.

    The icing on this shitty NFL cake, of course, is the continued debacle that is the Oakland Raiders. Year in and year out, they show promise, only to implode mid-season, getting crushed by average teams and no-name players. Last year at this time, they got steamrolled by the Bucs and Doug “Who the hell is Doug Wilson” Wilson, this year they get shredded by the Eagles and Nick “Who the hell is Nick Foles” Foles. This franchise is fucking dysfunctional beyond belief and I’m pretty much done enduring this absurdity…and wasting my Sundays on a league that’s become gruesome and ludicrous.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      You said it! “Willoughby! … next stop Willoughby!” (May today’s NFL incarnation RIP.)

      However, I have a solution: Oversized Nerf® Helmets and Pads! I’ve tried to push this idea, but have met nothing but obstruction and derision in the House of Reps. They apparently believe season-ending injuries is not only Big Money, but is part and parcel of what attracts those of the masculine persuasion to watch the game in the first place. Okay, just kidding about the last part, but I still think a huge problem persists in not only the larger, bulkier, faster NFL players, but the equipment they use needs a major ‘kinder/gentler’ upgrade.

  8. Chico says:

    I’m sure most of you have heard about the walk-on freshman football player at Cal who ended up in the hospital. I’m really hoping Hunter Hewitt (who does a solid job reporting) is wrong. If he’s right, this is going to blow up and rightfully so. Just follow his tweets from last night. If true, that’s horrible and Cal will be getting a new coach & staff and a possibly a new AD.. This is serious stuff. https://twitter.com/HunterHewitt

    • mailorderwife says:

      If true, this is a travesty.

    • Chico says:

      I suspect a third party will jump in to investigate what happened. Cal will do itself a favor by getting out in front of this ASAP.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        From Hunter Hewitt ‏@HunterHewitt 3h

        ..Players were told to deal with Hale on their own but “leave it in the locker room.” Hale was later seen in the locker room and blindsided.

        (Told by who?)

        I apologize if what the Hale family friend said is indeed false, but she is clearly very close to the family and a legitimate source.

        Sonny Dykes says the allegations of Fabiano Hale’s family friend are not true

        According to source, the player who hit Hale, another freshman, was still allowed to suit up for Saturday’s game

        (turned out to be false)

        All of that information was from someone who is very close with Fabiano Hale’s stepfather, who was in Berkeley with his stepson all weekend
        ——————————-
        Bottom Line – it’s too early to draw a single conclusion. It is possible to suspect a personal grudge of some kind between Dykes and Hale, but … wait here … let me go fetch my handy Magic 8 Ball and see what it says before going further! 😉

        • Chico says:

          Definitely need more details.. If what Hewitt is reporting turns out to be false, then his credibility is forever shot.. If it turns out to be true. . . . . Yeah, lets wait for more details.

          • shoelessinbearvalley says:

            I am less inclined to think Hunter’s so much at fault as what he has confessed to be an uncertain source at best. IOW’s, I believe he’s allowed for the possibility that his report (actually multiple “twitters” – which is a little bit like trying to cover what the heck is going on – in real time – as Bush’s invasion of Iraq begins and according to shady sources (Cheney and Wolfowitz), they will all be showered with flowers and greeted as liberators upon entering Bagdad square! ha! – is just developing. Apparently, we will have to wait until after the Virginia governor’s race – not before – to see how big a loss is further inflicted upon the T-Party darling, Lt. Gub, Ken Cucchinelli, uber-super-guber candidate for the misogynistically inclined.

            • mailorderwife says:

              How can anyone run on an anti-blow job platform and expect to win?

              • shoelessinbearvalley says:

                McAuliffe was just projected the winner in VA (with 91% of the vote). Closer than pre-election poles suggested, but Cucchinelli probably lost the woman’s vote by a roughly 2-1 (60% to 30 %) ratio.

  9. Chico says:

    Rand Paul gets popped for Plagiarism two times in six days..And he challenged a reporter to a duel? Typical libertarian.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      It’s been unbelievably ’embarrassing’ behavior for a phony dud, aspiring to make a run in 2016. The only place Paul will run in 2016 is soon after he’s consumed a boat load of prunes. (It now appears well-documented that Paul’s penchant for plagiarism extends to parts of the book he ‘wrote’; i.e.,

      “Kazcynski reported Saturday that three pages of Paul’s recently published book (more than 1,300 words) borrowed heavily from a 2003 study by the conservative Heritage Foundation, along with another example involving the Cato Institute.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/11/04/rand-pauls-plagiarism-allegations-and-why-they-matter/

      Paul’s future in politics peaked last week. It’s all downhill from here. He’s toast.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        I said the same thing about Marion Barry when the video of him smoking crack was aired. He ran again and was elected after being convicted and serving time. IDK if he was actually allowed to vote legally at the time of his election following the conviction.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Good point. Barry’s ‘reelection’ was one of those more surprising political anomalies (I rightly or wrongly just chalked it up to the likely fact he had no competent opponent to stand in his way.) But Rand’s ‘borrowing’ of whole passages – without attribution – makes him look like a fake. A phony. The fact he wants to “duel” it out – if only dueling was still
          ‘allowed’ – with Rachel Maddow really looked beyond stupid. Paul apparently takes “shooting the messenger” literally! sheesh.

  10. Chico says:

    Alright.. Comment removed for saying the forbidden word ’embarrassing’.. Burn, SFGate, burn!

    • sandy32koufax says:

      BfE/etc. writes “VogleScheiße” all the time. In case you guys weren’t aware of it, Scheiße is German for shit. Report it. Report it often.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        You know, I was wondering about that … but never thought / took the time to investigate it. Next time it happens, I will flag his post and report this to SFGate just to be sure. 🙂

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Yeah, the auto-censor at SFGate is now in run amok mode. Clearly, it’s finding “ass” in embarrassing …

      The kicker for me today was having my [Tim] Lincecum comment censored as “Lince***”. SFGate’s “Bob” emailed me back, explaining they are aware of the issue and Viafoura has promised to “fix” it by tomorrow …. what a bunch of amateurs.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        This was removed last night:

        “Content disabled
        sanfradodgerfan Rank 1
        @evancampbell Scheiße. That’s a word in that I keep reading in your reviews. What DOES it mean?”

  11. sandy32koufax says:

    I just had a long convo with a buddy about the Martin-Incognito fracas. His take, as a black man, is that Martin’s parents didn’t bring him up with an understanding of how to be a black man in America. He went on to say that there is no way in hell that any black football player in the NFL would or should be subject to an Incognito without either kicking his ass or trying to. He also said that if Martin couldn’t wasn’t willing to at least try that “remedy,” then getting big badass bruthuh to do it was just as acceptable. This is from a guy I’ve known since 1974. A VERY reasonable man, in most instances. He also grew up in a family of boys with no father and in Hunter’s Point. He is disappointed in Martin and his father in a HUGE way.

    • xoot says:

      Hmmmm. I know a guy who has two sons. One is a bad ass who will kick the shit out of anyone who insults him. The other, a much better athlete, would rather walk away from a fight. Guess which son has shown himself in every way–sports, arts, academics–to be smarter?

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      Some of faulted Martin for not “manning” up while at the same time suggesting Incognito is more “manly”. Sheesh. I guess the ‘black’ view – by some of his own kind – isn’t particularly helpful.

      I tell you this, this kind of shit – if it got out in baseball – would be condemned by fan, teammates, manager, and ownership alike. Bullying is toxic to “team” chemistry.

  12. sandy32koufax says:

    I’m not trying to debate intelligence or accomplishment, my friend comes from an educated and distinguished background and has made his own mark in the world. I’m trying to impart a sense of how, apparently from what he told me re how other black men he’s spoken to today about this, feel on this matter. That Martin didn’t stand up for himself or in some manner try to circumvent Incognito’s behavior.

    • xoot says:

      And I’m not trying to bypass the cultural complexities. But I doubt if that guy I mentioned the other day, the Verbum Dei graduate who started in the Cal DB in the 80s, would agree with your friend. I coached a couple of teams with him. Next time I see him, maybe I’ll raise this issue. But probably not. My hunch is the jock or former jock African American community is not unanimous.

      • Chico says:

        Talking about Hardy Nickerson? Good Bear (his son now plays for the Bears) Class act all the way! I know what you’re saying Xoot.

        As a juvenile, I had 2 assault and batteries (one was almost a felony because I used my feet), but I had a good public defender and he got it reduced to an M.. Never have and never will have an adult arrest record (knock on wood)..

        It took me a long time to learn how to walk away (though I was never bullied, I did do some bullying in my younger years). I’m not that educated at all, but when my kids were born my wife made me promise that I would change my ways.. One particular instance was leaving Jupiter in Berkeley one night through the back side.. This punk was looking for trouble and after about 10 insults, I saw red and I snapped.. I destroyed him so badly that an ambulance was called and I ran.. I got home and she showed up about 20 minutes later PISSED off at me. She told me that she never wanted to see me like that again. Now I just chew the inside of my cheek and think about my family, and walk away. I also avoid bars that serve hard liquor because it’s always a slippery slope at those places.. I understand what you’re saying Xoot. Instead of the good education and good upbringing, I chose a different route and grew up really fast. I had to, it was an ultimatum. I still struggle with the tough guy mentality though. Another thing that keeps me in check that I didn’t mention above was that nobody likes a violent Dickhead..

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          “I also avoid bars that serve hard liquor because it’s always a slippery slope at those places…” Chico, so true! Notice how many unpleasant ‘incidences’ occur at fancy night clubs, etc., for athletes with off time and money to blow. Of course, not all education comes so neatly packaged in a bunch of course books and a well lit lecture hall. Your life lessons are its own kind of invaluable education – that you really can’t learn from a book. The fact you have chosen to place your wife and kids above other earthly considerations is the most impressive. I salute you for showing yourself to be a man of greater character. Even more impressive, because inward changes are often so hard to come by. Often they take repeat, personally heroic efforts to get ‘the job’ done. Kudos (and thanks for sharing).

          • shaman138 says:

            Avoidng hard liquor in general is a wise decision. Avoiding bars that serve hard liquor is a good move as well. Although my recent experience with SF bars is, of course, less of the “tough guys” than techie-nerd asswipes who get a lttle sauce in them and transform into Super Hipster. Of course, there are tons of ladies here who go for that crap. Mindless, pretentious idiots.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Because I am not a college graduate, African American nor highly intelligent, I believe I am excluded from having anything germane to say regarding the understanding of “The Black Experience” as it applies to this situ. I’ve been shocked a number of times over the years by my friends’ differing responses to various situations involving racial “strife.” Sometimes he has walked away shaking his head, and at other times, he has engaged w/o any reason I’ve been able to discern.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Okay, you may not have a “degree”, but I believe it safe to say your considerable knowledge of baseball far surpasses whatever Albert Einstein thought about the game. ;)Frankly, highly intelligent must be highly overrated, because you impress me as very intelligent – and in this context, I’m not just talkin’ baseball or the fact you could spell Leo Nomellini – whereas couldn’t without looking up his moniker on the web! 🙂

          • sandy32koufax says:

            Like I said some months back, “I’m just smart enough to know that I’m not smart enough.” But thanks for placing me anywhere above Mr Wildhair 😉

            When I introduced my son to him in ’98, he handed his HOF ring to him and said “Try it on, kid.”

            He’d done the same thing to me when I was 13.

        • xoot says:

          Sandy, I think I once mentioned to you that some of the smartest people I’ve ever worked with were RR brakemen who did their parents favors by graduating HS. And I also think you know damn good and well who’s the father of those two sons I described.

  13. twinfan1 says:

    Negotiations for the A’s to play at AT&T hit a snag with Lew’s insistence on a tarp over the left field bleachers for A’s games. Baer is said to be countering that the A’s pay 22,000 Gamer Babes from the 209 to fill the anticipated empty seats. It appears that negotiations are now at a standstill unless Larry will accept 22,000 trailer trash gamer skanks from the 209 and the upper 707.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      hee hee! I’d give both sides about two years to resolve their skanky upper level differences.

    • xoot says:

      let me guess–the skanks will crowd into big luxury buses ostensibly headed for Reno and as a result of the Wolfschmidt liberally served en route fail to notice they’re headed west until they pull into the parking lot. Could work. In any case, the tarps won’t be available to cover seats. The advertisers at the park will demand that the A’s stretch them over signage. at&t and coca cola, too large to hide, will demand that the A’s pay them license fees. And the A’s ticket sales department will find out just how much interest companies like twitter google apple facebook et cetera have in purchasing luxury suites for green and yellow games.

  14. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    I have confirmed this much about the company Viafoura today: It / they have a thin hide – they don’t suffer public confrontation as in,
    ————————
    (Contents Disabled)
    “@s***less – what’s with this Viafoura software? I wrote (see above) ” …their acquisition of Tanaka or w_h_o_e_v_e_r and the auto ‘censor’ crap made it look like someone dropped another BfE/giantsrock/wbb/evan expletive. 🙂 This software is also visually NOT at all stunning let alone entertaining to look at. Too, what’s with the constantly makes-no-sense rank silliness? Come on Viafoura! This place isn’t fit for a new millennium of spirited bloggers!”
    ———————–
    It’s just a blogger’s public view / experience, not even complemented by a worthy expletive (although the auto-censor now finds “hoe” – secreted in “shoeless” as a toxic ‘subject’ – ha!).

    A better – more ‘manly’ solution for Viafoura – is to come online and yeah post a “reply” (or thoughtful / explanatory rebuttal), which would foreseeably generate increased goodwill, even greater patience for them to get their software shit together. But, no! Instead, Viafoura = Cowardly Corporate Lilly Livers! A definite “thumbs down”.

  15. sandy32koufax says:

    Happy birthday Arturo!

  16. Chico says:

    Yeah Shaman, I rarely do hard liquor besides the occasional vodka/tonic/splash of OJ, or a margarita here and there… A couple of friends and I went beer hopping this weekend in the city.. Love the lower haight.. Toronado and Rosamunde seem to go hand in hand.. Then we went to Speakeasy, which had more of a winery feel to it than a brewery.. I miss the old speakeasy, when you would drink in the warehouse and cash in your tokens 😉

    • shaman138 says:

      Toronado is a good daytime/weeknight bar when it’s not crowded–it sucks when it is crowded. Rosamunde is awesome–incredible potato salad to go with those sausages.

      • Chico says:

        The bartenders are hilarious.. A girl walks in and asks for a Stella.. The bartender rolls his eyes and walks away.. She causes a big stir saying ‘I come here all the time and he’s not serving me!!!’ — bartender: You come in here all the time and order a Stella?’ Hilarious.. Molotovs isn’t a bad dive bar either.. The mad dog in the fog is pretty cool, too.. I like that area..

  17. Chico says:

    I see Shea is making his case as to why the Giants should go after Tanaka.. That’s a very steep posting fee there.. But if the Dodgers get him, 😦 I’d like a legit LFer myself..

    • sandy32koufax says:

      I’d love top see the Dodgers land this guy but, somehow, IDThink it’ll happen. I’m reading something along the lines of $120M at a minimum projected cost will be what it takes. 60 for posting and 60 for Tanaka. They do have the bux but after reading xoot’s explanation of just how heavily-and quickly-the comparative balance tax is-IDK that they’d want to spend that kale.

      • Chico says:

        Well, the Dodgers are also after David Price, but that would take their top prospect to make it happen..

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          I like David Price. Let’s let Sabean get him. And, let Magic Johnson & Co. pick up the ‘tu-tanka’ man. That way everyone’s happy. yet, another over-the-top shoeless “socialist” idea. 🙂

  18. sandy32koufax says:

    You guys are fucking hilarious when you get going…xoot, chico and shoe? You guys made me laff.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      It’s what we do, you too. 🙂 Don’t look now, however, but your / our entire Temescal post appears to have been “disabled,” whereas evancampbell’s post remains in tact. I don’t get it. The Viafoura / SFGate censorship policy appears to have gone hopelessly rogue. 😦

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Shitty fux. VK, no doubt-“OTJ”

      • xoot says:

        what petty bullshit sfgate is now. That university of temescal comment was a great one, shoeless.

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          Yes, thank you, Zoot (I hate losing it, since I took several minutes to craft it and think it through while maintaining the proper spirit ;); and it was one of Sandy’s best retorts. Nothing said was foul nor inappropriate by anyone. And, yet, it would appear that “Bob” at SFGate – assuming he’s an A’s sympathizer – may be showing a now blatant bias towards the town across the bay, but apparently and especially the Temescal dig. Whatever the case, it’s now gone too far. All the more since a troll’s post remain ‘sacred’ and untouched.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          That was a fucking priceless dig…I laughed at all of it. You guys all made me laugh today-almost as good as the night the A’s lost

      • Chico says:

        Did they really censor that comment? Have fun on that little troll blog. I wan’t no part of it.

        VK can suck my dick for all I care.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          For posterity and Chico’s rebuttal to the deletion:

          chico_state
          chico_state Rank 11
          Giants baseball blog related.. We have a Dodger fan commenting here, who refers to Ryan Vogelsong in the German language which is actually a cuss word. He attacks someone based on the other commenters profession, and he constantly makes fun of injured players and VK told us to let him know when the ‘Splat’ was back so that we can report him. Instead, comments directly combatting his divisiveness are removed..

          What is going on here? I’d like an explanation.

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          In the great Temescal tradition, here’s a listing of a “left field” position available for 2014:

          http://www.jobsabroadbulletin.co.uk/reception-intern-in-trendy-palermo-hostel-night-shift-%E2%80%93-ph02p/

          Compensation includes mate, churros and “Froot Loops.” Argentina’s a little distant, but Villa Freud is right down the road…

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          Great fit, especially the daily on-line updates.

          “About the internship

          “Welcome customers
          ” Make bookings
          “Checks-in and checks-out
          “Answer practical customers’ questions
          “Make turistic and cultural recommendations
          “Update different databases
          “Answer daily requests by phone and email
          “Update the hostel’s profile on different pages, social networks and other media
          “May participate in events organization and Public Relations campaigns” [i.e., slide shows in the … » more

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          @sanfradodgerfan But can you bring your dog to work with you?

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          @chico_state Pero, Chico…pero. 😉 Solemente en semanas…

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          @sanfradodgerfan – Yes. Surely, the pride of a town: The University of Temescal! Where beautifully weathered outdoor bleachers serve in place of imported marble and glass lecture halls; and where much learned tradition of the pre-Cambrian and possibly even the pre-Canseco period of eldritch enlarged glandular knowledge is passed on from degeneration to degeneration. According to strict Temescal school policy, only members of the rhythm-challenged LF drummers section or those residing in the 707, who thriftily substitute senior level rags and thread bare skirts for the more usual freshman formal attire of bobby sox, knickers, and tweeds need apply.« less

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          @shoeless POTD

          • xoot says:

            I didn’t see the dog-at-work comments. Those were funny. But the U of Temescal comment never should have been censored–clear case of redeeming social value, artistic accomplishment and hilariously incisive satire trumping, swamping, overwhelming little wbb’s well deserved shame.

      • Chico says:

        “I don’t get the Republicans’ strategy here. It doesn’t look like there are quite enough white male votes to elect a president, and you can’t get any black votes against Obama, so you nominate a Jeb Bush with his Latino family, or put Marco Rubio on the ticket, or just take the standard Texas Republican governor’s line on legal immigrant workers (they want them, from Clements to Bush to Perry), and you might tip the election. You’re not going to lose the anti-immigration whites in any event. Instead, you have these fairly extreme Arizona people dictating your party platform and it’s even hurting you in Arizona.”

        VK wing-nut, you lost!

  19. Chico says:

    Tony Dorsett diagnosed with CTE..

      • sandy32koufax says:

        You know what sucks? Set all of the pain and fear and loss on one side of a scale and the power of the NFL and equipment manufacturers on the other. Our court system will side with the rich guys. I have never liked the Cowboys or Pitt and I watched Dallas and Dorsett take the Rams and Raiders apart too many times but I always liked this guy. Civil law is one thing but these guys are killing themselves or going through unimaginable torture. Isn’t there a law that can address this, that Riddell and NFL can’t slip off the hook for?

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          I don’t know. The NFL may run very much like J.R. Reynolds Tobacco Co., who fought and continue to work around the fact that tobacco kills over time. As an American, it’s all about “freedom” to the tobacco companies: “Smoke at your own risk”.

          So it has been with football. “Hey, young stud! Play and make Big money.” (But, also assume all the risk.) It won’t be enough, however, to post a surgeon general warning on player helmets that playing football could be hazardous to one’s health.

          I reviewed the Dorsett video and while he struggled at first to get his words in order, he eventually made a compelling argument that something must be done not only to serve the health of players while they are playing the game, but the NFL must continue to serve the needs of ex-players, long after they retire. If the NFL thinks this an expensive proposition, then, perhaps they will rethink how players play the game and / or are not being well preserved for a post football career by the antiquated equipment they wear.

          Despite steroids, HGH, and ever bigger, faster players, one might still make a better case for bringing back the concept of the leather helmet – but modified to current state of the art technology. IOW’s, replace the hard helmet with infinitely more shock resistant material(s) that happily can’t be used as a spear or chain mace weapon.

          Which brings me back to a 2014 version of the Nerf helmet ….

          • sandy32koufax says:

            When was it…two years ago that we were shown those silly prophylactic helmet shields? And they do nothing to decrease the force of the impact to the head/brain. Our skulls are so not like wall insulation and not designed like some carbon fiber, shock resistant bullet-proof vest. I wondered before making my initial post on this about leather helmets, what the incidence of CTE may have been/might be with the men that used that equipment. No numbers to make any educated guess with, though.

            Ya, deny, obfuscate and just flat out lie. Then pay some fool enough to take the fall for the league and the Riddells.

            Nerf? Really? Shoot me the plans and I’ll build a prototype-I’ll just take a cool 10% for 5 yrs…

  20. Chico says:

    From the video: “Our biggest month ever was after the Giants won the world series in 2012”.. Ever. “Hard local news” = “Hard local advertising”.. What makes them the most revenue is “slideshows”.. Shit, if he helped us out a bit, I might even like the guy.. Good orator..

  21. shaman138 says:

    Today is the day that Twittter goes public. A sad day for SF, IMO. A bunch of useless, self-entitled brats will become new millionaires, providing nothing of substance to the city except even more inflation and outrageously high housing costs. The mid-Market corridor these little shits were supposed to invigorate by moving there is more blighted and decrepit than ever and the Twithead tax break ensured that they can suck off this city like parasites while giving back nothing in return. More high-rise condos, a diverse and enlightened culture decimated by a pointless tech industry, and a sanctuary city for the wealthy while vital public services are slashed–that’s the true legacy of Mayor Napolean Ed Lee, not the Warriors arena that he wants to put on top of the bay (??!!).

    Sorry for the rant. These Tweeter fucks really piss me off. I also am wondering how a supposed front-running city for environmental awareness would also promote the idiocy of having everyone living here commuting to work in the ‘burbs (SV tech jobs) while everyone who lives in the ‘burbs commute in to work here for service jobs. That’s an environmental clusterfuck right there, clogging freeways and transportation. Utter stupidity.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      I think when Facebook ultimately recovered from its initial stock market plummet debut, it made “800 millionaires” overnight. Tweeter is expected to make fewer, but nonetheless most of this shit is all about making ‘easy’ money, I suppose. As for any intrinsic social value, etc., it likely has less to do with that and everything to do with the inevitable outgrowth of technology and someone(s) initially coming up with schemes to make money. ‘

      It’s been said that money is what makes the world go round, but it may also explain just how 2 dimensional is the thinking of so many, who inhabit it.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Hipsters are all over my neighborhood. Thank God for the latinos that don’t abide them in the mission. Trouble is that the self-righteous little fux are remaking this neighborhood in their image, so to speak. Mission St and the TL are getting a complete “makeover” but it isn’t so much the architecture as the crowd. I don’t want to say I’m a dick to them when they’re a dick to me…but I am. Especially if they walk into a restaurant or bar that is a place they enter as their new domain and try to be assholes to the regulars. I know the owners of those places and they understand that, for a short while, their business would be the hotspot. But they also “get it” that it would be a phase and that crowd would leave for the next hotspot in a heartbeat, possibly ruining the core of their business-the regulars. These wo/men try to incorporate both crowds but it never seems to pan out very well and they lose one or the other. I do detest those “gnats.”

      • xoot says:

        I’ve encountered them, usually in groups of four–two couples–sitting behind me at Giants games. Seriously, this has occurred several times in the past few years. They arrive late, they talk loudly about everything except the game, including their jobs, and, thank god, they leave early. In 2011, a woman in one such group said, several times, Where’s Cody Ross? Why isn’t Cody Ross in right field? He’s my favorite player.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          Right? Freaking Rockridge is full of them and they do have that uber obnoxious thing going on. I’ve wanted to use rather vulgar language with the women when they’ve used it on me or some woman I know but used the “You know, this REALLY isn’t a safe place for hipsters” line…Zeit Geist is terrible and packed by them every once in a while. I just walk back out when I see them somewhere most of the time rather than deal with them.

          I miss Cody, why ISN’T he in right?

  22. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    As far as the coaches not knowing about the so-called hazing … That’s the most outlandish lie of this whole thing,” Murtha wrote. “The coaches know everything. The coaches know who’s getting picked on and in many cases call for that player to be singled out. Any type of denial on that side is ridiculous.”

    Quarterback Ryan Tannehill described the two as brothers, saying Martin was “like Richie’s little brother. He gave him a hard time, he messed with him, but he was the first guy to have his back.”
    http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/11/07/former-dolphin-gives-details-on-incognito-martin-issues/
    ——-
    “What’s perceived is that Richie is this psychopath racist, and the reality is Richie was a pretty good teammate,” tackle Tyson Clabo told news reporters. “I don’t know why (Martin is) doing this. And the only person who knows why is Jonathan Martin.”

    Dolphins coach Joe Philbin, who had seemed unaware of any brewing problems, said the team would take “all necessary measures” to fix any problem revealed by the investigations.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2013/11/06/miami-dolphins-jonathan-martin-richie-incognito-locker-room/3458891/
    ————————————
    In light of what Murtha said about, “the coaches know everything,” is it still possible Joe Philbin was seemingly ‘unaware’?

    We know Martin was a quiet guy, who tended to keep to himself, yet Stanford has come out in full support of Jonathon.

    Two more likely possibilities:

    1. Incognito took things too far. There may be much more said or done that has yet to be publicly aired.

    2. Martin may have ‘snapped’ for some other, yet to be disclosed, reason(s).

    Or the “1” may have precipitated the “2” above. Don’t know. But I would take the Dolphin teammate comments only so far; and hope the NFL inquiry gets to the bottom of what really happened. For now, I identify more with Martin’s plight … than Incognito’s brand new black Ferrari and how he might continue to make payments without his job.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      “And there’s plenty of evidence to suggest he’s right, for it is Martin — the Dolphins lineman who left the team, exasperated by months of bullying — who is widely being criticized for not manning up.

      ” Incognito, a designated team leader, was emboldened because none of Martin’s teammates manned up and stopped him … Or worse yet, maybe someone did want to stop him but was too afraid to cross the “man up” electronic fence, a fence few men — including myself — are willing to cross on a regular basis.

      “So we do what was done to us — tell little boys not to cry, chastise classmates for being soft-spoken, let a co-worker know that he needs to grow a pair. It’s all fun and games until someone’s feelings get hurt, right?

      “And then you read a story, like the one of 17-year-old Steven Liu — who last week jumped to his death from a pedestrian bridge near his high school, and who some said was a victim of bullying — and you remember: Sometimes the continuous call to fit in, to “man up,” hurts more than just our feelings.”
      http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/opinion/granderson-incognito-man-up/index.html

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Players, coaches and league officials have “circled the wagons” in the same manner that the NRA and gun-nuts do. That the narrative is to deny that there is anything wrong with this behavior speaks volumes to the culture of “Manly Men” that the NFL, indeed all of sport, is.

        I played football for a bit and yes, it is all about ones machismo and balls. It is also about camaraderie. Too often athletes, probably not unlike cops and soldiers, find comfort in that treatment of each other and condone it as “normal.” “Man up” is the vogue way of saying “shut up and take it like a man.” Bullshit.

        IDK what any football league would look like that didn’t embrace that kind of macho philosophy but I do believe that conducting oneself in such a manner is a source of negativity and, ultimately, poorer performances onfield. Look at the Cowboys and the antics they were busted for-“The White House” episode is legend to NFLers and probably to many fans. To me it is indicative of the excess of “Dare Devil-tude” and the lack of maturity to actually bring any change in that culture in any appreciable way.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            In saying those things, if there is some “proof” of it, may that “teammate” be charged for any crime?

            • xoot says:

              I don’t know about criminal law; might depend on the way the message was sent, applicable state law, etc. But an overzealous civil litigator might make something of it.

              • sandy32koufax says:

                Ya, I guess a southern state like Fla might have old laws which would not have provision for that type of threat. CA does. I’m starting to think that, in spite of Martin’s atty making the strong statement that presented, the league is just going stand pat and close its’ ranks even more.

                • xoot says:

                  Wonder if Stanford’s making a statement tonight in support of Martin? They’ve been very tough, and smart, so far.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Want me to call VK and ask 😉 ?

                • Chico says:

                  Chemistry. Been suspected for a long time.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Pete Carroll North!

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Furds up 20 zip just before the third ends. O looks like Noballs having a catch with Waynita

                • Chico says:

                  I mean shit, I don’t pay 15 bucks a month for insider info for nothing. I hope..

                  Furd is killing them.

                • Chico says:

                  This blog is all fucked up. Posts are going to the top and some are ending up where they should be. Can’t escape the fucked up shit lately I guess.. I’m headed out for a beer..

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Later

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Hahaha.

                  The comments under you link, xoot are despicable.

                  Give a bruhthuh a link to those pix, Chico. Before and after…

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Comments post all fucked up…

                • Chico says:

                  I don’t know how to fix it. Maybe I’ll write a new blog oat tonight and let MOW edit it with the hot stove stuff. I removed the pic of the furd goon last night, maybe that did it ?! I’ll see if I can fix it when I get home.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Don’t take any of these names out-I need them for vk. Have a good time…

                • Chico says:

                  no problem man.. I don’t write this shit down for nothing 🙂

                • Chico says:

                  You guys want a funny read, go to ‘Tim Flannery and the lunatic fringe’ FB page. He rants about Ron Wotus not getting a managers gig. He’s fun to follow.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  I was just deleted…again. for this:

                  User has been banned
                  sanfradodgerfan Rank 5
                  @Tricky_Gnosis He continued to re-state said “error” after the fact, which makes it…yes…a lie. I flagged your comment and you know why

                • Chico says:

                  What article did this happen on?

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  CBS story…tricky_gnosis has been banned and eppie_glottis is yet another incarnation of probal young

                • Chico says:

                  I think it’s about time to find a new home.. Any other local sites with a decent comment section?

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  None like this one except for the Merc’s sports blogs. SFGate Staff tells me they want to address the troll problem but we;ve heard that line before. Maybe foura does have an effective mechanism to ferret these fux out, IDK, but I’m cool with finding out. I’ll post the link to report, should you decide to go that route, any abuses you see that you believe to be Miss Noballs Young. They’ve been rapid to respond which is a plus.

                  SFGate Support
                  support@sfgate.com

                  Maybe using something like Probal Young in the title wouldn’t hurt either…

                • Chico says:

                  New post up.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  And…I’m unbanned (is that a word?) again. VK has now passed me off to “SFGate Support” on this matter. PUNT!

  23. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    “Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

    Anyone know how long this wait entails? (I posted links to my last two posts and I assume it’s the links that are holding up the ‘processing’ around here?)

  24. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Just came in from the woods, and now 2 1/2+ hours later, and still waiting … please, forgive any duplicate posts this morning, but I’m going to try to post the same material here a second time.

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      As far as the coaches not knowing about the so-called hazing … That’s the most outlandish lie of this whole thing,” Murtha wrote. “The coaches know everything. The coaches know who’s getting picked on and in many cases call for that player to be singled out. Any type of denial on that side is ridiculous.”

      Quarterback Ryan Tannehill described the two as brothers, saying Martin was “like Richie’s little brother. He gave him a hard time, he messed with him, but he was the first guy to have his back.”
      http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2013/11/07/former-dolphin-gives-details-on-incognito-martin-issues/

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        “What’s perceived is that Richie is this psychopath racist, and the reality is Richie was a pretty good teammate,” tackle Tyson Clabo told news reporters. “I don’t know why (Martin is) doing this. And the only person who knows why is Jonathan Martin.”

        Dolphins coach Joe Philbin, who had seemed unaware of any brewing problems, said the team would take “all necessary measures” to fix any problem revealed by the investigations.
        http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/dolphins/2013/11/06/miami-dolphins-jonathan-martin-richie-incognito-locker-room/3458891/

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          ————————————
          In light of what Murtha said about, “the coaches know everything,” is it still possible Joe Philbin was seemingly ‘unaware’?
          ______________________

          We know Martin was a quiet guy, who tended to keep to himself, yet Stanford has come out in full support of Jonathon.

          Two likely possibilities:

          1. Incognito lost it and took things way too far. There may be much more said or done that has yet to be disclosed to the public.

          2. Martin ‘snapped’ for some, yet to be disclosed, reason(s).

          Or the “1″ may have precipitated the “2″ above.

          For the present, I identify more with Martin’s plight … than Incognito’s brand new black Ferrari (and how he hopes to continue to make timely payments without his job).

          • shoelessinbearvalley says:

            Lastly,

            “And there’s plenty of evidence to suggest he’s right, for it is Martin — the Dolphins lineman who left the team, exasperated by months of bullying — who is widely being criticized for not manning up.

            ” Incognito, a designated team leader, was emboldened because none of Martin’s teammates manned up and stopped him … Or worse yet, maybe someone did want to stop him but was too afraid to cross the “man up” electronic fence, a fence few men — including myself — are willing to cross on a regular basis.

            “So we do what was done to us — tell little boys not to cry, chastise classmates for being soft-spoken, let a co-worker know that he needs to grow a pair. It’s all fun and games until someone’s feelings get hurt, right?

            “And then you read a story, like the one of 17-year-old Steven Liu — who last week jumped to his death from a pedestrian bridge near his high school, and who some said was a victim of bullying — and you remember: Sometimes the continuous call to fit in, to “man up,” hurts more than just our feelings.”
            http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/07/opinion/granderson-incognito-man-up/index.html

  25. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Kneel before Bill Maher … and California! (In case you haven’t seen this one, you’ll love!!!)

    • Chico says:

      Link isn’t showing up.. Weird.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      I saw this when on HBO, last week? Anyway, funny shit and so true. Can flyover staters say “I hate Californians, cuz I’m jealous!” prolly can but won’t, they’ve got the same issue that all those NFL people have-denial and immaturity.

      Good grab, shoe…

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        NRA = Nuts! Racists! and Assholes! –B. Maher 😀

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        I watch Bill Maher every Friday at 8 PM, but missed whenever this segment appeared. I just find it extremely satisfying AND empowering. “T-Party Free!” ha!

        • sandy32koufax says:

          Maher is too fucking funny. Did you see Ann Coulter on his show? Wish he’d have gone at her harder but he did rip her a tiny bit bigger one.

          • shoelessinbearvalley says:

            Yeah, I did. I felt tricked for a moment when Maher declared that they had already been married twice … talk about a fantasy marriage from hell! 🙂 Coulter seemed more constrained than usual – usually, she’s just a flaming ‘neo-bitch’, but Maher’s presence clearly held her back. That, and the fact she’s hoping to promote another ideologically boorish book to a wholly incredulous liberal audience.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              I liked that when he said that and she kinda recoiled but kept her composure. She didn’t flame because he would have eaten her lunch and she wanted to push her tripe…woulda been cool though, he is a wicked prick when he gets going. Kinda like this woman I know from San Mateo;)

  26. sandy32koufax says:

    My sfgate just got deleted! cocksucker

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Ya, that’s where he actually told me last night that he was going to have acct banned. Sonofabitch

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Unbelievable 😦

        • sandy32koufax says:

          OK, here’s “the deal.” Just got off with VK and he’s actually off today! Cool of him to help a splasher out, ya? Anyway, he did and he’s going to the game now so he’ll deal with the rest later but…evan is on temporary suspension-sent to the minors? Hahaha. VK said he’d review my claims of evan campbells name. We’re going to need jack crabby on that. so, avoid the troll PY and enjoy, Dowders!

          • shoelessinbearvalley says:

            Cool! (I confess to you all that I’m still trying to piece together some of the acronyms used here … WBB, by example I know to be Barry4ever/gnatsrock/evancampbell/etc., at least I believe this the case. Even so, I’ve had to dispatch two of my best gumshoes to ferret out and discern just who the heck this “PY” dude is when not in drag.

          • xoot says:

            Wayne’s using Zumie’s name.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              Go tell the zoomster…flap it

              • xoot says:

                I think Twin already did.

              • xoot says:

                There’s an old transcribed interview with him on line–some guy decided to create a blog catalog of travel writers; why I can’t imagine–and Wayne reveals a huge amount about himself in a few sentences. Also, if you find the various bios his publisher posts and then quickly google the info revealed, I think you’ll agree that his wife and daughter obviously wear the gaucho pants in the family.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  So, he’s a subby and his psyche is in conflict with itself. You obviously read his entries on the proliferation of psychology/psychiatric care in the ‘cone, either he’s undergone, or needs to undergo, a painstakingly arduous therapy/treatment regimen.

                  I’m seeing a grown man in diapers doing the yard and housework at a Temescal bungalow as I type these words. There’s some part of that binky-sucking cuckold which cannot exist w/o that discipline and another part that longs to be free of that bondage. I’d help his mistresses, and bind even more securely and permanently.

                • xoot says:

                  The guy’s going after me on the splash now based on some shit he came up with about me a couple of years ago after I emailed him (trying to punch through the troll mask to the PhD, etc.). It’s reassuring. Tends to indicate the pathetic fucker doesn’t lurk here.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  And PY is having MY comments removed. I’m pretty certain they lurk here and are incensed…HEY BITCHES! HERE’S MY MIDDLE-FUCKING FINGER RIGHT UP UR ASSES, REAM-O!

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  That’s the response I gave Pr*b*l sans his actual name. But referencing “school” and N*rr*s set him off. Tread lightly

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  By the way, VK told me Bernhardson had been temporarily shutdown. I wonder if that meant 20 minutes or if someone else was somehow convinced by Wayner to lift that suspension…say the Cooper travel woman at the gate???

                • xoot says:

                  well, Wayne seems about ready to flip right now, they way he’s weakly trying to attack me over on the splash.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Well, I’m sure that I’ve only managed to enrage el proballo and scare waynito either into ceding for the evening or going all in…

  27. sandy32koufax says:

    VK came through, I’m “unblocked.” But have been warned to keep it cool. I told him about PY and need all of the screenames we have on him to share with VK. Also outed Bernharson and the fact that he doxed Evan Campbell and asked if that wasn’t a violation to use someone’s real name…

    • sandy32koufax says:

      It was when I used PY’s real name…that acct got blocked after two posts that were 100% within TOS.

      • Chico says:

        You used his real name? haha, that takes balls considering that he has the site so rigged he calls the shots. Good on ya!

        • sandy32koufax says:

          Ya, two years or so ago…when we were pissing at that avatar with the white sports car-that was him too. Bitchboi

      • sandy32koufax says:

        caselli Rank 3148
        @Trappist_Ale I want to join a militia, but it’s gotta be well-regulated. Oddly, I can’t find any.

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    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      I’ve learned more about the ‘inner’ SFGate game by hanging out here. I am blown away that VK ever thought to block SFDF in the first place. I used to think SFGate was fairly liberal in its blog ‘permissions’. Now it feels and looks more like VK lost his calling as a local warden at Guantanamo or Abu Grahib. Okay, maybe a slight exaggeration, but he at least would have served Stalin well in the good ole days of the Gulag.

      Seriously, this VK dude is a Giants blog esprit killer. Especially when it took uber efforts on a number of you to 1) get evancampbell’s post “disabled” – assuming VK is going to disable on sight every regular’s post he arbitrarily disapproves of despite the fact I saw no ‘guideline’ violations.

      Anyway, as move-on.com was want to do after the whole bogus Bill Clinton unilateral impeachment crap, it’s time for all of us to “move-on” – VKa-hole or no VKa-hole.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        He doesn’t block us any longer…IDK if he even mods at the baseball blogs anymore. evan is at least on temp shutdown. VK said something funny to me ” I assure people I try to be an equal opportunity son of a bitch.”

        word…

        • shoelessinbearvalley says:

          “An equal opportunity son of a bitch.” If that’s the case, I’ll believes it when I sees it.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            Ya well…he has blocked tons of moss and slats accts and quadruple that of PY’s. Pretty equal op SOB since my original acct, jackcrabbys’, xoots’well, you know how it is…doncha?

            • shoelessinbearvalley says:

              hmmmm, well, I need to give him more credit where credit’s due then. I am still a bit appalled by his quick trigger finger however for removing the Temescal thread … I still don’t get what the ‘violation(s)’ were, but no matter. Can’t live in the past. Life’s too short.

    • Chico says:

      theabyss
      simplysaid99
      IdleWorship
      zapata2010
      KimmieMarie
      angelsfans
      Cacophonous
      The_Duck
      solotar
      nick_name
      moelarrycheez
      Mghandi
      Barbara_Anne
      Reason64
      The_Chairman
      VladDracul
      DKKinHM
      bushranger
      browneyedgirl1
      MickandMike
      TomasTheBuilder
      pete_connors
      ThisIsMike
      HighRollerRick
      Bull_Winkle
      TunaJake
      mdunphy
      bedbug
      friscotown
      slackno
      local666
      LionelMichaels

      And these are the ones I know about.. Imagine how much more are out there.. I know I’m missing a few but this is just off the top of my head. All the same person.

      • Chico says:

        Buddy_Rogers, too.

      • shoelessinbearvalley says:

        Chico, whoever the dude is in real life, he makes Sally Fields’ Sybil look like a featherweight amateur.

        • Chico says:

          He’s an attorney believe it or not.

          • Chico says:

            Add LookyThere to the list.

            • Chico says:

              And Tricky_Gnosis

              • Chico says:

                aqua_lad

                • Chico says:

                  Izz and FourthGenInSF

                  I once had one of those ‘this user has been blocked by the staff’ things show up under my comment as a reply. Someone removed it and it was FourthGenInSF that followed up with a comment. Him, to.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Thanks, Chico…am going to forward those en manana as I don’t feel like pinging dude at a Furd game.

                  Ya, shoe, If you think you’ve encountered this psychopath, don’t play with him the way I do, you won’t win. Having said that, if you have a need to fuck with him, open new acct(s) and go after him that way.

                  Looking at the sheer volume of names he has, and I have no doubt they’re all his, points to his mental instability. I tried reasoning with him after he’d threatened me last night, maybe not the in the best manner, I asked if I needed to go to school or to Norris. I was banned 12 hrs later. He’s got some psychological/emo disconnect that drives him to create literally hundreds of ID’s and even write in various styles and from differing POVs. This cat may need SERIOUS attention beyond a 5150. I am not exaggerating. He is so deeply invested in this charade that it is his life and, I would not be surprised if his activity at sfgate didn’t drive ad-rev by 50%.

                  Avoid this Bad Penny. He is the definition of an internet cyberstalking bully-

                  (see what I did there?)

          • shoelessinbearvalley says:

            An small claims attorney, working on behalf of the Judge Judy show; and who works nights at Whino’s Wild Turkey’s Mortuary.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              He’s even less than that. He’s is not even a zit on my ass.

              • xoot says:

                He’s a sad mutherfucker unable to make partner, living his life like a rabid rat. I know a couple of partners at his firm quite well. I think they would be appalled at his hobby.

              • shoelessinbearvalley says:

                “He’s also Chico_Escuela….” You know, this one is maybe only a couple months old. I thought the “chico” part seemed too suspiciously coincidental. The guy is single-handedly screwing the blog. Their must be a regular IP address that can nail this shit once and for all.

              • shoelessinbearvalley says:

                Amazing stuff here, guys. I feel like I’ve just read a great teaser to a new Sherlock Holmes adventure. Except in this case, it’s Sandy’s Baker Street Irregulars who have been working overtime to get to the bottom of this dude’s one hundred and one aliases. Impressive work, Chico, Xoot, and SFDF!

  28. shoelessinbearvalley says:

    Update: NHL: San Jose Sharks v. Vankoovre Kanooks – 7:00 pm PST/CSN Bay Area (recommended!!!!)

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Hahaha on your Canuckian accent. Had a Girl Friend visit me special like from T.O. in April and dude, I really got tired of that voice…I shut her up though;-)

      Sorry Mrs MOW

  29. sandy32koufax says:

    Just before the end of the third Furd’s up 20 zip

  30. sandy32koufax says:

    Go read the comments under xoot’s link. Some people are, well, like our bookend nut cases

  31. sandy32koufax says:

    Well, as terrible as O looked, Stanford tried giving it to em…

  32. unca_chuck says:

    Well, there are certainly plenty of teams that wouldn’t put up with anything remotely this distracting and damaging. The Niners being one of them. Bill Walsh was totally against hazing that went beyond a rook carrying a vet’s pads and other innocuous stuff. Harbaugh runs the same type of ship. He’s all about keeping the team focused on getting better and gelling as a team. The players all come from different backgrounds and all that, and they aren’t immune to saying stupid shit a la Culliver but this kind of pervasive distraction wouldn’t fly.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      I am SO not being a dick on purpose but…Aldon Smith flies. Harbaugh didn’t make him sit the last game he was with the team for, hell, Smith was still hungover from his treesperience. Harbaugh IS different in positive ways than Philbin but 49ers have had a fair number of “disciplinary” issues the past 1 1/2 yrs…

  33. shaman138 says:

    The Sharks have reverted to choke once again, it seems. They’ve been looking like cream-puffs on this home-stand.

    Meanwhile, more drivel from SF’s Viafoura-powered conservatroll news site:
    “When every restaurant must pay for sex change operations for partners of their part time workers, toast will cost $4. If we want to saddle restaurants with additional costs we need to get used to costly toast”

    • shoelessinbearvalley says:

      ha! The fact that the part-time worker is ‘immune’ to company fringe benefits, enjoys no medical care, etc., not to mention must hope to live off his/her tips, because the minimum wage barely affords transportation to and from work, one can only thrill to the cost of that Grand Slam Breakfast special, eh?! Solution: employ on site sex change doctors to service restaurant clients even while they wolf down that best slice of $4 toast this side of McDonalds $8 McMuffin thingie, while saving thousands upon thousands of dollars of overhead office space every month. A win-win for everyone with the possible exception of the customer and the over-the-tip-dependent minimum wage server, who will surely be served as toast in due course too, or better yet, Soylent Green.

  34. sandy32koufax says:

    TGIF, Dodwers! And it is a beautiful day to kick off the weekend.

    And the hits keep on coming…PY or not PY?

    “Tricky_Gnosis Rank 1108
    @domestique:

    Yes, I consider SFGate “left.” I’ve had fifty-odd SFGate accounts “suspended” (read: revoked), most of them for the offense of winning arguments with liberals.

    The presence of Debra Saunders doesn’t mitigate the Chronicle’s and SFGate’s being left-wing overall. It’s hardly uncommon for liberal newspapers to employ a token house conservative. Jeff Jacoby at the Boston Globe and Ross Douthat at the New York Times come to mind, to name a couple of prominent ones right off the bat.

    Never heard of them? You really need to get out more. *smirk*

    That’s from the CBS admits error story.

  35. Chico says:

    I made a new post because this one is getting difficult to follow (comments are scattered everywhere)..

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