BASEBALL NEWS, WEEK OF 10/21 – 10/27

Sunday, October 27
News
— Per Buster Olney, the Chicago Cubs are said to be looking at Rick Renteria in their quest to look for — possibly — a bilingual manager.

TV Today:
NFL: San Francisco 49ers v. Jacksonville Jaguars – 10:00 am PST
NHL: San Jose Sharks v. Ottawa Senators – 2:00 pm PST/CSN Bay Area
MLB World Series Game #3: Bahston Red Sux v. St. Louis Cardinals – 5:00 pm PST/FOX
NFL: Pissburgh Steelers v. Oaktown Raiders – 1:05 pm PST/CBS
NFL: Green Bay Peckers v. Minnesota Vikings – 5:30 pm PST/NBC

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Saturday, October 26
TV Today:
NHL: San Jose Sharks v. Montreal Canadiens – 4:00 pm PST/CSN Bay Area
MLB World Series Game #3: Bahston Red Sux v. St. Louis Cardinals – 4:30 pm PST/FOX
College Football: Stanford Cardinals v. Oregon State Beavers – 7:00 pm PST/ESPN
College Football: Cal Golden Bears v. Washington Huskies – 8:00 pm PST/FS1

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Friday, October 25
News
— For SF Giant Matt Williams is reported to be the new manager for the Washington Nationals.

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Thursday, October 24
TV Today:
MLB Baseball World Series: St. Louis Cardinals v. Boston Red Sux – 4:30 pm PST/FOX
NHL: San Jose Sharks v. Boston Bruins – 4:30 pm PST/CSN Bay Area

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Wednesday, October 23
TV Today:
MLB Baseball World Series: St. Louis Cardinals v. Boston Red Sux – 4:30 pm PST/FOX

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Tuesday, October 22
San Francisco Giants News
Breaking!(5:00m)Tim Lincecum has signed a 2 yr./$35m contract with the team. YAY!
— Strange coming from the same ballpark that rented out their services to Satan’s minion, but the SF Giants tweeted “A #Dodgers fan proposes to his Dodgers girlfriend at the #SFGiants World Champion park instead of a Dodgers NL West Champ park.”

News
(10:25 am) The Lost Angeles Dodgers have fired two of manager Don Mattingly‘s allies in the bench coach and an advanced scout.

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Monday, October 21
News
(9:37 am) According to Jon Heyman, Tim Lincecum is said to be interested in a short term deal. As in, shorter than 2 years. The LA Dodgers and California Angels, along with hometown Seattle Mariners, are said to be interested.
(9:37 am) The Los Angeles Dodgers have agreed to terms on 4-yr./$28m deal with Cuban prospect Alexander Guerrero. Potential value is $32M
Jim Leyland is stepping down as manager of the Detroit Tigers. Bruce Bochy now has the most career victories among all current managers.

TV Today:
MLB Baseball World Series: St. Louis Cardinals v. Boston Red Sux – 4:30 pm PST/FOX
NHL: San Jose Sharks v. Detroit Red Wings – 4:30 pm PST/CSN Bay Area
NFL: Minnesota Vikings v. New York Giants – 5:40 pm PST/ESPN

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344 Responses to BASEBALL NEWS, WEEK OF 10/21 – 10/27

  1. Chico says:

    That Mattingly/Colletti press conference was the weirdest presser I have ever seen. Colletti is a goofball and Donni spoke the truth. THAT was odd.

    • mailorderwife says:

      Felt sort of bad for Donnie.

      • Chico says:

        Totally agree. And he stuck to his guns. I respect that.

      • xoot says:

        I saw Schulman’s tweets about it. Sounds like Mattingly had no control over his team going into St Louis because everyone knew he was on his way out the door? I wouldn’t be surprised to see Magic/et al fire Ned, too.

        • mailorderwife says:

          You think they go after Girardi?

        • sandy32koufax says:

          Guggie are continuing to be another corporate embarrassment to the spots world at large and the Dodgers specifically. Magic is the house nigga and Colletti & Donnie Baseball are his field boys. Fuck, what a terrible way to handle this situation at this time. I thought they’d have some elegance or rhythm, all of that money, PR insiders, and all of the social grace hasn’t translated into anything other fumbled situation after bungled situation. Starting with the acquisition moving thru the pension fund raiding to Stow, McWhoops, ad nauseum. WHO are these clowns?

          • mailorderwife says:

            I know we’ve all made fun of Mattingly because we could. He’s the Dodger manager, and there was that special incident where he got Bochy’d. We all knew there would be a learning curve because Torre is the lazy suck. It’s not as if he had the advantage of learning next to, say, Tony LaRussa. So yeah….he still doesn’t deserve this sort of treatment from the Dodger organization. Donnie Ball is also Mr. Team Captain Don Mattingly, an exceptional player who deserves a bit more respect.

            I do not imagine that it is simple for anyone to manage a room filled with all-stars, many with humongous egos in a land that is seeped in bullshit and fast talkers. Donnie can let you play today? Well did I get that table at Masa’s? Will Kanye be there, because I think he likes how I pick my nose out in right field. You think they let Puig run rampant? Maybe Mattingly wanted to secretly kick his butt, but Magic Johnson wouldn’t allow it. After all, David Beckham comes to the games now, and you want to pretend that everything is a-okay for the world’s most overrated soccer player.

          • shoelessinlassen says:

            Coming from you, sfdf, your observations carry considerable weight. I can’t help but feel a little bit of the same lack of social graces when the Giants ‘let’ Dusty Baker go at the end of an incredibly successful 2003, having come up just short in game 6 of the WS. Of course, Bochy came in and proved he could better manage the bullpen.

            Bottom line, as cold and calculating that it is, perhaps your Dodgers will wind up with a high priced wizard-manager to match that payroll. Of course, I hope not. But if Mike Scioscia became available, I think that would be a decisive boon for the dogs.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      Chico, could you link the Mattingly/Colletti press conference you are referencing? Thanks.

  2. shoelessinlassen says:

    The Lincecum counter ‘offer’ of a shorter term (one year) 2014 contract, I admit surprised me. But the more I think about it, the more that it looks like Lincecum wishes to avoid anything remotely close to the Zito fiasco. I like the decision. It looks from here at least that Tim only wants to be paid for a promise he believes he can honestly keep – to pitch at a level commensurate with his pay. He’s a rare, one of a kind bird in the majors. Kind of makes him special, despite the ‘adversity’ of two Cy Youngs so early in his career. I hope he stays a Giant in 2014. I hope he has a resurgent, breakout 2014. I hope it warrants an agreeable to Lincecum long term contract, starting in 2015.

  3. Chico says:

    Whoever has facebook, you HAVE to go to the ‘Christians for Michele Bachmann’ page.. I have never laughed so hard in my life.. It’s fucking genius.

  4. shaman138 says:

    The Shaman returneth…hi everyone

    Two-trips took a last place team to a dominant division crown and the NLCS in one year. There is no reason to throw him under the bus like that. Inexcusable IMO.

    And let Timmy walk.

  5. mailorderwife says:

    So Kanye proposed to Kim K and her fat ass at AT&T Park tonight? CAN’T WE JUST HAVE ONE THING GOOD HAPPEN TO US THIS YEAR AT THAT BALLPARK?

  6. shoelessinlassen says:

    Giants baseball talk:

    Now, assuming the Giants do let Lincecum walk (which they won’t do without a determined fight, I’m guessing), and given Zito won’t be back either, who do YOU fill in at the Giants #3, 4, and 5 slots of the rotation?

    We know Sabean vowed to acquire a bona fide #3 starter, so that still leaves Petit and who else to round out 4 and 5. I don’t think it wise (“wouldn’t be prudent” – to borrow from George Herbert Walker …) to count on Gaudin – at least not as a starter; besides, if healthy, he’s still the best Giants long reliever out of the bull pen.

    So, who do you assign to complete the #4 and #5 slots of the Giants starting rotation?

    (Incidentally, for ‘my’ money, I hold onto Lincecum, even if it’s only a surprisingly modest 1 year contract, start Petit at #5, and get that quality 3rd starter. As for Kickham … maybe he might work out in the bullpen, but I wouldn’t count on that much either in 2014.)

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Agree on keeping Lincecum short term. The guy showed great progress in moving from a purely power pitcher to a location guy. He still has a ways to go on that front though. Maybe the addition of some wicked off-speed pitch that he can place in Bucketland would be enough to get him there. If he figures out this “elegant” way of pitching, he’d extend his career and, probably, his worth-$$ and contract yrs-wise.

      Ya, Petit may have enough pitches and stamina for 30+ starts, so he’s a keeper. Gaudin, otoh, is still a BP guy that is fine for spot or limited rotation duty but not a guy you’d place in the SP5. SF is going to need to go outside of the organization for another starter unless Voglesong has another full season left in him, which I don’t see as realistic. The guy could be the jints answer to that needed long middle-reliever or even a shut down closer, though. That still leaves the jints one SP short. Which still leaves them in better shape than LA pitching is right now.

      • shoelessinlassen says:

        Great minds from opposing sides of the dugout speaking the same gosh darn thoughts. Just spooky! ๐Ÿ™‚

        • shoelessinlassen says:

          Just to add that with Kershaw, Greinke, and Ryu, the Dodgers front 3 are better set up than the Giants, who presently have a missing #3 front tooth.

    • mailorderwife says:

      TBH, I’d love Bronson Arroyo. Yeah, he’s getting old. But a pitcher’s ballpark might extend his career a bit, and he’s always been a Giants killer.

  7. sandy32koufax says:

    It appears that LA is in the process of cleaning house. Ownership lobbed a huge fusillade over Mattingly’s bow dumping people he hand picked. The last straw was his bench coach, Donnie won’t want to return after the firing of Hillman. So. “Optimistic Conjecture” would indicate a quiet deal with Girardi has already been made…

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Uncle Ned is on his way out the door too if he really was out of the loop on Kemp’s ankle surgery.

      • shoelessinlassen says:

        After such a breakthrough season, that’s really just sad news.

        It’s LAD’s ownership-consortium’s version of the “Midnight Massacre!”

    • mailorderwife says:

      Girardi signed a 4-year extension with the Yankees. So I think DUSTY BAKER! YEAH!!! BRING IT ON!

      • Chico says:

        Dusty Baker to the Doyers! LOL!

        • xoot says:

          Dusty will take the job so long as the bums assign someone specific to police Puig. He’s too old for that shit. In fact, he never liked it when he had Bonds on his team.

          • Chico says:

            Good point Xoot..

            • sandy32koufax says:

              Fuck, buying Dusty is tantamount to a string of 2nd place finishes either at the league or WS levels…

              • shoelessinlassen says:

                Baker will get the Dodgers to the post season. After that, it’s anyone’s guess. But, despite all his critics, Dusty came within an arm weary Rob Nen eyelash of a 2002 WS. Still, Mike Scioscia be the Doyers best bet.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  OY! Please, jints fans NEVER wanna include #25’s lax play during that inning. He could have dove for the first ball to left and made a catch-preventing runs.

                  OR

                  He could have been quicker to the ball and delivered the ball to the cutoff man on a rope, which he was known for, instead of lobbing it back in.

                  Ya, Baker should have pulled Rodriguez but Big Barry had a huge hand in those runs even being possible. Prima fucking donna

  8. Chico says:

    I watched that presser yesterday with my jaw sitting on the floor. Dude, Dodger management is brutal.. Donni gets them to the NLCS and they shit on him.. Then they fire the bench coach as a sacrificial lamb.. The Dodgers are seriously the new Yankees. It’s a franchise that is really easy to hate.. I was on a Cardinals blog and they HATE the Dodgers. I mean, Stan Musial’s grankid got heckled at Dodger stadium and the mid-west is not happy about it. http://blogs.riverfronttimes.com/dailyrft/2013/10/stan_musials_grandson_hassled_cardinals_dodgers_brian_schwarze.php

    • sandy32koufax says:

      You’re right on about ownership being NYYWest anymore and Donnie is a man of grace and dignity. He’ll walk unless he gets everything he wants-pronto.

      Sorry but…screw Musial’s grandkid and Cards fans that don;t cotton to a west coast raspberry. Those same exact things happen to me in PhoneComapnyPark It’s baseball, bro, and there’s no crying in baseball.

  9. Chico says:

    Timmy will be a Giant for two more years.

  10. xoot says:

    The Freak abides. I’m very pleased about that new deal.

  11. unca_chuck says:

    2/$35 mill . . . woo hoo! Welcome home Timmy.

    Now let’s figure out how to pitch without your 96 MPH fastball.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Dude was figuring that out last season fairly well, chuck. I can see him moving into a Maddux kinda guy-location pitcher. Just needs one good string pitch to make that work after he’s finished working out the kinks. He looked good most of the 2nd half while moving in that direction…

  12. unca_chuck says:

    His 1st 2 months he was 5-3 the first four were 5-11.

    I’m on the fence. Yeah, I wanted him to stay. Yeah, he’s Timmy. And he’s actually taking a pay cut from the last 2 years, so, it is kind of a deal. However, he ain’t the ace. He’s a 3 now if Matty returns to form.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      IDC what the numbers say, chuck, dude looked completely different (in a good way) during the 2nd half.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      It’s too easy to go out on limbs these days, but, I believe Tim will have his best (and winning) season in three years in 2014. Of course, it might help if he gets some timely run support.

  13. shoelessinlassen says:

    On a trivial side note, that new SFGate – “Viafoura” – software is really 2nd rate crap. While I think It’s good to get rid of the “thumbs up / down” shit, the site’s appearance is visibly sterile – as someone else pointed out – and far less friendly / colorful than “John Dowd’s Revenge”.

    In any case, SF Gate will likely stubbornly stick with it through the end of Matt Kemp’s contract year, 2019.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      I read he may permanently impaired by his ankle injury. Fucking Dodgers! Wasting such a stellar talent and, who knew during the summer of Rhianna, great guy…

      • shoelessinlassen says:

        That’s a big loss. Kemp and Ethier were the Dog’s new and improved version of “The Bash Brothers”. And, Ethier’s untimely shin splints issue (if I have that right) just added insult to Kemp’s injury. Let’s hope Ethier is healthy next year. I always thought he was more dangerous as a “clutch” hitter than Kemp.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          Everything’s still “unknown” but that was the scuttlebutt around the net today. Ya, IDK. That season Kemp shoulda won the MVP, he was the most dangerous NL batter but healthy Dre is still over .300

  14. Chico says:

    Yeah, the new format is there to stay at SFGate. And for those who don’t know, evan campbell and gnatsrock are the same person — it’s WBB, aka barryforever, the dumb ass failed travel writer..

    SFGate is in trouble… The replies I made today would normally have generated discussion.. They didn’t even get a reply back.. RIP.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      They are hidden the way the thread runs. It’s a BS format that viafoura thinks will generate more clicks to follow it but I’m seeing people stopping at the point above “SHOW MORE” VK as much as admitted that he and everyone else in SF have no more input or control on the comments. It’s all in Canada and NY now.

      • shoelessinlassen says:

        Crap! Don’t look now, but MOW’s board, here, could be where the future lies for Giants fans … and, oh yeah, the somewhat ambidextrous SFDodgers’ fan.

        • shoelessinlassen says:

          What I meant to convey was Viafoura is crap and thank goodness MOW has this dedicated website that surpasses in every way the 2 mule-power Viafoura engine.

        • mailorderwife says:

          Oh…this is really JD’s blog. We all contribute to it during the season, and I just put up trade stuff during the off season to keep the traffic going.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      You know, I do recall how barry4ever seemed to have morphed into gnatsrock last year … but his shtick is visibly more muted, even dull.

      On the second point, I wondered the same thing today. It’s as if Viafoura came in only to sabotage the official Giants community message board … not that it needed any more help after this season, which saw virtually as many trolls as regular Giants fans. In fact, the Splash seemed to have 3 trolls for every 1 regular. Observably counter productive – if you are a Giants fan.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        I spoke with dude about the Splash specifically. Moderation, HIS moderation was the topic. He admitted he’d made mistakes there and I told him he could set things right. He seemed to balk at that, citing the hate by some Splashers for him. We’ll see, but if he is really impotent re moderating comments anymore, he won’t have any input. The trolls will survive unless via has some sort of tracking software that will zap user accts from repeat offenders…

        • shoelessinlassen says:

          That’s rather inspiring to talk to one of the powers that be.

          Seems to me, the moderator could set things right by simply implementing agreeable changes – no need to balk or fret about what Splashers think – just do it right and presto, no more hate to go round and round.

          The tracking software seems so obvious. And, yet, I wonder what SFGate pays the guy(s) to make sure things work as intended? Probably not enough, otherwise, it seems a bit like child’s play in this day and age to counter repeat offenders.

          Of course, when I reviewed the posts over on the LAD message boards, following game 6, the trolls were out in force, I thought. Even so, I thought the language was far more liberal and indulgent than what is currently permitted at SFGate. Do you think any of these boards are actually being managed well – it would appear to be a rather daunting task, without the aid of some auto-pilot software assist?

  15. Chico says:

    “He seemed to balk at that, citing the hate by some Splashers for him” You know what? FFFFFFF

    VK jumped all over me one day, for jumping all over Katie Dowd for her lack of baseball knowledge. I presented links to back my claims up. I then replied to my own comment under VK’s reply to me, that on that same fucking day, John Shae posted a blog post for the Drumbeat “the A’s can’t play the Astros every day”……..All the drumbeaters were ripping Shae apart.. I presented VK with that information and put him in a pickle he couldn’t get out of, and completely PWNED VK. JDR backed me up, Xoot backed me up, Filthy changeup backed me up and Shaman backed me up. I went on and presented more information to him that made him look bad.. What did he do? He had my comment deleted at 8:00 am on Monday morning, when he likes to do his clean-up (this goes back to the days of Jack Crabby, and everyone knows it)..

    He’s made bigoted remarks about gays.

    He’s admitted to liking the A’s because he’s Claustrophobic and likes an empty house.

    He admitted to me via email (which others here know about) that he’s well aware of the troll PY and his umpteen dozen accounts. His words: ‘We are very aware of him. He emails and bugs us almost every day’

    He chose to do nothing.

    Now, if you look at the blog about the new format changes, you will see PY’s umpteen dozen handles complaining about the new format. Wanna know why? Because the site isn’t set up for him anymore. He can’t troll and have accounts blocked like he used to. He’s frustrated because his little sadistic game is over on SFGate. Me? I’m happy. PY and VK and that shitty ass newspaper are on the ropes, and I feel like the one who is teeing off on them. Body shot, uppercut, right cross, you name it. We’re winning the fight.

  16. xoot says:

    vk’s a prissy little martinet. I don’t hate him, I just don’t like him or his abuse of authority. The guy had a clear conflict of interest–trying to backup A’s homer Slusser with his own homer horseshit–while pretending to preside fairly over sfgate generally. I exchanged some email with him about these issues last summer. He refused to do anything to police the trolls that clogged the splash. He concluded one very long email with this: “I think itโ€™s valuable having you on Splash; in some ways youโ€™ve taken over a needed role as the commenter most willing to do battle with trolls. I just ask that you cool it on attacking me.”

    We’re supposed to do his work for him? Fuck him.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      Amazing load of truly disappointing SFGate ‘moderator’ bullshit.

      Meanwhile, the new viafoura software is not keyboard command unfriendly (i.e., the “control-cursor key” command constantly causes the screen to flicker / act like it’s in the “Shift and Enter” mode. The Reply and “Submit” command hangs in a decidedly arbitrary manner. The whole thing is becoming a joyless exercise in sporting community self-defeatism. I suspect the Koch Brothers are behind this fiasco too. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Chico says:

      I never hated him either.. There was a time when I felt sorry for him but that all changed the day Zumie jumped his shit for good reason.. That’s another old valuable Giants fan on that blog who bounced. He now does all of his Giants talk on the flap..

  17. xoot says:

    Did you guys see H. Schulman’s tweets about the KW/KK engagement party at the ballpark? He wrote that they paid $17 million rent for the party and that they’ve reserved the place for their wedding at $18 million. A bunch of really smart people immediately pointed out that the rent alone will pay for Lincecum’s contract, or buy a new LFer. Schulman RT’d–“I guess I should say I was joking.”

  18. sandy32koufax says:

    He’s told me incredible shit the past year or so, and ya, he’s even mentioned that PY is a bitch thorn in his side but hasn’t done shit about it. IDThink he knows how to do his job and ya, I’ve seen him harass and denigrate individuals and groups online while being wholly out there as an A’s fan/jints hater.

    I asked about deletions that didn’t merit such and he has alternately said “I don’t know why it was deleted,” “That deletion doesn’t show in my system, so it must not have been deled” and my personal fav: after asking why “How’s Houston treating you” was deled, he said “I have no idea. Those decisions arenโ€™t made locally. We know the moderators arenโ€™t very good and have told New York that on multiple occasions.” His days on the job are numbered…

  19. sandy32koufax says:

    For MOW:

  20. shoelessinlassen says:

    For What it’s worth (I’m afraid not very much), I just sent off a hasty email to SF Gate – the “contact” box has a strictly enforced character limit, so under that constraint, I wrote the following (I’m not particularly happy with what I said / how I said it, but just thought you all should know … again probably not worth much):

    Re: Viafoura message board software.

    In two words: User-unfriendly.

    1. It’s cold. sterile. visually cheerless, hence, less inviting than ever before – just the opposite of what SFGate might think to encourage.

    2. The “Show More” feature is visually intrusive, adding yet another level of tedium to the “free-flow” of ‘instant’ communication.

    3. Old keyboard commands like “control-cursor key” causes the screen to jump / flicker – as if being given the command to go to the next line
    (i.e., “shift-enter”).

    4. Loaded Images fail to show as a complete / instantly recognizable “thumbnail”.

    5. There still appears to be no effective policy to police website stalkers – i.e., “trolls”. Trolls working in complete anonymity and impunity – especially on the season long “Splash” pages. Trolls drive real fans to go elsewhere.

    If you believe in an SF Giants endorsed community message board, as I do, please, reconsider your arrangement with Viafoura and current moderator.

    Thank you.

  21. Chico says:

    This is home for Giants baseball talk for me. Here and a few places on facebook.. I’ll browse the Splash is the damn thing even loads.

  22. sandy32koufax says:

    I hate the Red Sox.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      I know. It feels good to vent freely. I won’t go so far to say I hate ’em, but I sure do loathe them with the ‘fierce urgency of now’, to borrow from he who resides in ye ole House de Blanco at the end of Pennsylvania Ave.

  23. sandy32koufax says:

    Seriously blown call on Kozma dropping that DP ball trying to make a turn…

  24. sandy32koufax says:

    This amazing. A call that cannot be reviewed has been overturned. Blown call or not, when was the last time you saw this?

  25. mailorderwife says:

    I’m beginning to think that Kozmo is sort of like a wrecking ball in big games.

  26. sandy32koufax says:

    Damn, Kozma went from All-Star to scrub so far

  27. sandy32koufax says:

    Wainwright isn’t getting shelled but the Cards, in the 2nd inning are in serious danger of losing game 1? Bizzaro

  28. xoot says:

    If the Cards could forfeit now and start over tomorrow they’d be better off than finishing this goddamned game. Maybe the umpires should get together and make up a provisional mercy rule for it. Fox would deserve it, too. ๐Ÿ™‚

  29. xoot says:

    Beltran has ice water in his veins and a couple hundred tons of talent. Damn that guy can play ball.

  30. mailorderwife says:

    Nice whew catch, Beltran!

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Serious focus on that drive. Glad Ortiz didn’t another granny just now.

      • Chico says:

        Now Beltran is out with an injury.. Not good news for the red birds..

        • shoelessinlassen says:

          It’s the Hanley Ramirez in reverse kind of calamity thing all over again. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

          • sandy32koufax says:

            Fack, watch the guy make a great catch, focus on the phone call I had gotten and miss this situ? Why did the Cards pull Beltran? MLB says rib contusion but what I didn’t see was, did they wait til the inning ended or pull him right then?

    • xoot says:

      holy sheet what a nightmare for the Cards.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        The string runs out to the hated Red Sox?

        Damn I hope not…

        • xoot says:

          colleague asked me for my prediction this morning and I said, almost automatically, Cards in 7, with a really exciting final game in Boston w/ them batting last and with the DH in the lineup. That’s the future I see . . . . And I would love to see the Massachusetts Lumberjacks and their fans “B Strong” as the Cards celebrate on their turf.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            I could get behind the Cards doing that silly dance the Tigers did at E.coli

            • xoot says:

              I think people were right, that dance was Prince Fielder’s further revision to the infamous bullshit bowling-pin-strike HR celebration he choreographed vs. the Giants when he was on the Brewers. On the other hand, I’m sure in retrospect Prince is proud he actually did contribute something in the PS this year.

              • sandy32koufax says:

                My buddy digs Fielder. In part, I think, because he is a built like him. Anyway, Fielder couldn’t make three or four plays on easy foul popups along the right-field line because he IS too fat. I told my bud that Prince has superior quickness…for three steps…he dint dig that.

              • xoot says:

                Ha! On the other hand, I heard the other day that the Fat Prince of Grosse Pointe has played all but about 10 regular season games the past 5 years. He’s a really tough guy for a choreographer.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  And he’s always near to most games played. Two (?) yrs ago played all 162. Sturdy dude. I don’t mind his dances, it’s his bitchy, ghetto “Let’s get it on” after games shit. Twice he’s done that fake dance and I’ve never seen him get tough enough to throw down on the field.

                • xoot says:

                  Yep, strange guy. I still remember him waiting outside the dodger clubhouse to pick a fight with someone after a game a few years back.

                  btw, “the Fat Prince of Grosse Pointe” is (c) xoot, but, you know, fair use is fair use

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  You funny, bro. Likewise that formerly apt (c) Dodger envy thing…alas, tis an archaic term today

  31. Chico says:

    Horrible baseball on the Cards part… Horrible.

  32. sandy32koufax says:

    Man, maple bats are just too dangerous

    • xoot says:

      I agree. And I know I’ve said this before but it bears repeating: Barry Bonds made maple bats popular and I never saw him break one. Never.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Maple bats are dense and lighter than other wood bats but they’re also very brittle compared to ash and pine bats. The weight to density ratio is why they’re so popular but sooner or later, someone is going to be seriously injured by a maple bat. Meh, call me an anti-Mapite

        • xoot says:

          most guys have the handle lathed down to the minimum possible with the barrel pumped up to the maximum allowable. The handles split into spears.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            Yes, you’ve seen how the barrel tumbles and sometimes will drive itself into the infield grass up to a foot deep. MLB, always waiting for a disaster never preventing one.

  33. sandy32koufax says:

    14 straight singles gives the Cards the lead ๐Ÿ˜‰

  34. sandy32koufax says:

    “No Mas” is starting to sound like a good way out this mess. Damn I hate the Beantowners…

  35. sandy32koufax says:

    These fan friendly low fences are maiming more guys than German Shepherds.

    • xoot says:

      I swear I saw the arm of a Red Sux fan reach over and try to grab Robinson right after he made that nice catch on the WT.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Gotta admit, xman, the vicodin is still in system and my vision’s still a bit blurred ๐Ÿ˜‰ so I didn’t notice

  36. unca_chuck says:

    What MOW said is why I DON’T want the Cards to win. I don’t want them to repeat what the Giants just did. And that’s 2 WS wins in 3 years. Throw in their 2006 win and that’s 3 in 8 years. The Giants would be an afterthought.

    Well, not really, but fuck the Cards. I’ve had a big dislike for them BEFORE the hotdog Ozzie Smith days. ET McGee, Tim McCarver, Vince Coleman. Fuck ’em all. And FUCK Jose Okendo, wherever you are,

    • unca_chuck says:

      . . .and I love you, Candy Maldonado, wherever you are . . .

      • xoot says:

        Willie McGee? htf can you hate him? But I know what you mean. The old days on the turf in St Louis (not to mention in the lights, speaking of Candy M.) were another thing. Whitey Herzog moving the pitcher to LF for one batter and then back onto the mound. Etc etc. In any event, whoever wins the WS will have big bragging rights for WS success in this millenium–and the Giants will be right behind them, ready to make a move next year.

        • mailorderwife says:

          Willie McGee was one ugly mofo. But I liked him. Sort of? I hated the Cardinals of the 80’s, but I liked the Ozzie Smith’s backflips. Wasn’t he an abuser or something? Of course, Maldonado and Jeff Leonard love rules all. But I separate those Cards from the current ones, and I have a soft spot for all those ex-Giants coaches. As to people forgetting about the Giants, I think that happened once the season started. No one ever remembers anything west of the Mrs. Pee Pee.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            How could you hate Andy Van Slyke, Jack Clark and Tommy Herr? Hell, Tudor, Andujar and Forsch? WHOOPS! And what about Todd Worrell? I dug those teams the Cards had in 80’s…lotsa personality and studs. Terry Pendleton?

        • sandy32koufax says:

          jints had HUGE WS bragging rights in the beginning of last century too ๐Ÿ˜€

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      I hadn’t thought about that possibility. Hmm. I wonder if I should change my my sox based on just such a notable cause? No. I think I dislike the sox even more than any record – records, after all can be broken. And, realistic or not, I’m hoping to see the Giants compete with a chance of 3 rings in 4 years.

  37. mailorderwife says:

    Been thinking about ESPN’s west coast office, which is in Los Angeles. Why is that, aside from the whole “Hollywood” aspect, which has nothing really to do with the essence of sports? Los Angeles is largely basketball town, sometimes a baseball town, never a hockey town and there is no football here. The Bay Area seems to be a better place to have a west coast office with the region’s teams. The college sports sort of equals out, but you know about that more than I.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Real estate prices? Chris needing “yes girls?” The huge pool of sportscasters? And, hey! U$C is too a pro football team!

      • mailorderwife says:

        I used to see the Fox Sunday morning sports crew on Jerry’s Deli on Saturday mornings. Loud loud loud over their knishes. Such a Hollywood production. I used to like the subtlety of CBS Sunday morning sports, with their quiet analytical views. Now it’s just all show and catch phrases and the not very intellectual glimpses into games. Wait…I also hated Phyllis George.

  38. sandy32koufax says:

    Freese sure looks like a different guy than the star of the series a few years back.

  39. xoot says:

    Just saw a report on line that Beltran’s gone to hospital for x rays and MRIs and CAT scans and voodoo exorcisms.

  40. sandy32koufax says:

    BTW, KNBR (Mr T?) was talking about NCAA sanctions and how impotent they’ve become. $C and Miami were two of the most discussed programs but so was Oregon. It is an odd twist that when the NCAA FINALLY went after Penn St that they lost so much juice with all of the other schools they were supposed to be regulating…back to WS ball though…Think SPEEDY OIL CHANGE!

  41. sandy32koufax says:

    FUCK! Who are those guys wearing grey???

  42. sandy32koufax says:

    Game way over.

    Let’s go harass the dumbeaters

  43. Chico says:

    Turned the game off and out on Charlie and the chocolate factory for the kids.. Much more entertaining, for all of us.

  44. sandy32koufax says:

    How is Carlton Fisk’s number not retired by the Bosox?

  45. sandy32koufax says:

    Maybe the Cards forget about tonight and put everything back together and make a real series out of this. They put their best foot forward tonight though and it got cut the fuck off.

    Later Dowders…

  46. Chico says:

    Mattingly will be back with the Dodgers.

  47. xoot says:

    Check this out, from the recent Bloomberg article on mlb franchise valuations–everything on one interactive page:

    http://www.bloomberg.com/infographics/2013-10-23/mlb-team-values.html

    And note that the A’s received more in revenue sharing money ($36M) this season than they took in at the gate ($33M). Total revenue was $135M. According to Cott’s their opening day payroll was $62M.

    Giants, by contrast, paid out -$26M to the revenue-sharing pool, took in $126M at the gate, and had $300M total revenue. Opening day payroll was $137M.

    Wonder how the Bloomberg detectives got all the info?

  48. xoot says:

    Further to my comment above: I’ve been saying for a long time that the real reason the San Jose ballpark decision is in limbo is because the A’s are griping behind the scenes about revenue sharing. The current CBA says that the A’s are a major market team, and that they will stop receiving RS $ when they open a new ballpark AND AT THAT TIME THEY WILL BEGIN PAYING money into the pool. The CBA runs through 2016, I believe. The A’s owners don’t want to take a chance on San Jose so long as all their gains at the gate get cancelled by their losses in the RS program. Moreover, they can’t pay the Giants for the Santa Clara territory on top of that and still rake in a fortune (while paying for their new park). imo, the A’s are stalling the deal, trying to set up some sort of new exemption for themselves in the new 2017 CBA.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      This way of underwriting gobs of free money seems to have become the new norm. Corporate welfare, and this is exactly that in yet another guise, sees more $$ go to those that don’t actually have needs for it but are too greedy to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and cull the herd of those non-mavericks that bleed the system…oops.

      Social rant on the rape of the average American by huge corporate interests.

  49. unca_chuck says:

    Well, yeah. SCOTUS opened the floodgates by declaring corporations people and by giving corporations unfettered access to buying politicians. Corn subsidies, oil subsidies, on and on. Wouldn’t it be nice to turn a huge profit at your job, and get free money from the government?

    It’s like the hooraw around the fines levied on Chase. Funny enough, they are tax deductable. What a fucking joke. Dimon set aside $28 billion in fine money 5 years ago when he bought Wamu and Bear Stearns, knowing that this house of mirrors may tumble down around him. He was only fined $13 billion, and will be able to write off $4 billion.

  50. unca_chuck says:

    Lots of this shiot was going on for decades, but now it’s just flat outrageous.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      I’ve known no successful higher echelon politicians in my lifetime that weren’t at least set for life by age 40. Greed is a great motivator to stay in the game so to speak.

  51. sandy32koufax says:

    James Taylor MUST be stoned. I’d swear he just started singing America The Beautiful and caught himself just in time to The National Anthem instead.

    • mailorderwife says:

      But he was wonderful. Why did the SF Giants have to include so many FOX TV Glee and that TV show that spawns so many stupid commercial singers? I did see we have Lenny Williams (YAYAYAY) do a God Bless America, along with Tony Bennett. Would like to have see Sly do one!

    • xoot says:

      That PS GBA 7th inning stretch has to go. It’s been 12 years since NY introduced it after 9/11. Enough. SF has had a lot of great anthem singers when the spotlight was on. First Giants game I ever attended, August 6, 1978, vs. the bums with both teams fighting each other for first place, featured Luciano Pavarotti on the anthem. “land of the FREEE” indeed. Damn, I thought, this shit’s pretty good.

  52. unca_chuck says:

    My fave was opening day 1993 when Jerry Garcia, Bob Weir, and Vince Welnick sang the Nat’l Anthem.

    Still have the T-shirt . . .

  53. xoot says:

    The Cards are trying to take it to Boston tonight with NL-style baseball. More interesting than last night, anyway.

  54. shoelessinlassen says:

    Damn those Sox. They seemingly survive solely by the Home Run … at least at Fenway.

  55. mailorderwife says:

    Sox are homerun or bust.

  56. xoot says:

    Wacha hung that change.

  57. xoot says:

    Buck and McCarver love Boston almost as much as they loved Philadelphia vs. the Giants back in 2010.

  58. mailorderwife says:

    I switched over the Panthers/Tampon Bay game, which is just bloody awful. Calling it CFL would be an insult to CFL.

  59. sandy32koufax says:

    Hitting with RISP is up tonight

  60. shoelessinlassen says:

    Meanwhile, the Cards do it the ‘traditional’ way – sac fly, another run on 2 Sox errors, followed by an RBI single.

  61. xoot says:

    Beltran said he could play with injured ribs and he can. Bet it hurts. Hanley tried to do the same thing with a more serious rib injury and he couldn’t. Bet it hurt like hell, too. What a game baseball is. Good example why the DH sucks. If you’re gonna play, you should hit and field.

  62. sandy32koufax says:

    Take me out to the STRONG ballgame…”

  63. xoot says:

    So J. Taylor really was primed to sing America the Beautiful as well as the anthem. Good call. And at least it wasn’t God Bless America.

  64. sandy32koufax says:

    Joe Buck is retarded

  65. mailorderwife says:

    I just can’t stand these beards. At least the Giants had some stylin’ going on, ya know? I feel as if I”m watching the Cardinals playing the Amish.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      They remind me of those bacckwoods guys from New England. You never know if the guy’s a poet wunderkind or a mass murdering maple-farmer

  66. sandy32koufax says:

    I had no idea Matheney was only 43. Dude’s got a long career ahead of him still.

  67. unca_chuck says:

    Didn’t we get McCarver’s tearful retirement last year? What the fuck? How can we miss you if you won;t go away, Tim?

  68. sandy32koufax says:

    Now the Cards go home. My boy, Agon, whined about how unfair it was to the Dodgers that StL had homefield advantage. Let’s see if my homeboy is right or just whining.

    Good game, well pitched and some good D and some bad D. Hitters stepped up for Cards too.

  69. xoot says:

    Now that was NL baseball. Even with the extended commercial breaks, not much more than 3 hours, with a lot of action in the game itself. Fuck those Red Sux who tried to slow it down.

    Fox honchos are getting email from advertisers now: Hey, when Boston made the WS you assured us that every game would go 4 hrs minimum and we’d have deep prime time on the west coast for our ads.

  70. shoelessinlassen says:

    A seven game series still looking good. But, if Cards are going to win it, Chico’s undoubtedly right to project Cards in 6 (cause winning any game 7 back in Boston will be a tall task).

  71. Chico says:

    Cards tie up the series! Nice.

  72. Chico says:

    Joe Buck mentioning ‘a new hit by Pearl Jam’ was a joke.. The song Animal has been out for 20 years! Idiots.

  73. sandy32koufax says:

    MOW? Did you get lost watching Capoeira instead of the end of the game?

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  75. mailorderwife says:

    Interesting read from The Guardian: Ted Cruz isn’t the only Tea Party nut. There’s plenty more of them. I enjoy reading impressions of American politics, and the Guardian always does a good job in pointing out the clearly stupid.

    My favorite observation: The absence of any official organizational structure might be one reason the Tea Party has remained so lively despite a terrible national reputation and negligible policy achievements. When something goes wrong, those identified with the failure fade for a time and the attention of Tea Party-identified voters shifts smoothly to someone else. There’s also no demand for positive policy victories or signature legislation: no one has to win a debate, just spoil the outcome.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      Wholly consistent with the T-Party’s aim of getting elected in order to disrupt / stop government from working. They are anti-government, and yet are the same ones that want to run it (into the ground, I’m guessing.)

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Tedly and his goon squad are a def danger to America as we thought we knew it but geez, what makes Obama’s admin any better when we’re all virtually 100% under the eye of Big Bro? Unless one has a cone of silence and super-duper, high tech comm devices that are encrypted in ways the multi intel agencies can’t decode (good luck with the cost and likelihood of NSA, NSC, etc., not decoding) even living out in the Badlands is no guarantee of freedom from the eye in the sky, looking at you-ooh-ooh.

        Tee Potty is more than a stain on American governance and $arah Payme is more than an aging former cougar/milf with an acerbic tongue, they’re seemingly bent on tearing everything down and starting “fresh.” That that particular group of well-financed, headless loons would rebuild America as a corporate entity with draconian laws against any sub-group (read: Non-wealthy whites) seems preordained, to use a bit of El Pastor Rafael Bienvenido Cruz’ own verbiage.

        These people have nothing good planned for us that I can discern. That they are overwhelmingly supported by voters of the belief that they are being represented by a TP which has their collective “best interests” at heart is the more frightening thing to me. Our electorate is damned ignorant of the realities of who and what they vote on. Anyone that is jazzed by a candidate touting her/himself as a Revolutionary Conservative is ludicrous to me. That they are given credence via the ballot box makes it even scarier.

        I still wanna see Trig’s DNA results and for this idiot to STFU!:

        When Democrat Barack Obama was running for president in 2008, Republican voter Christina Katok of Walden said she believed he was ineligible for the job.

        She reasoned that he was born in Kenya and therefore wasnโ€™t a โ€œnatural bornโ€ American โ€” one of a handful of constitutional requirements for the job. (Obama’s birth certificate shows that he was born in Hawaii, but some critics do not accept that as fact.)

        Fast forward six years and another freshman U.S. senator, Canadian-born Tea Party firebrand Ted Cruz of Texas, is being mentioned as a potential 2016 presidential candidate. But Katok, who would vote for Cruz in a heartbeat, doesnโ€™t have any concerns about his eligibility.

        โ€œAs far as Iโ€™m concerned, Canada is not really foreign soil,โ€ she said. Katok said she was more disturbed by Obama’s “strong ties to Kenya,” the African country where his father was born. She also said she didnโ€™t like the fact that Obama did not release his long-form birth certificate during the 2008 race.

        Cruz, who recently released his Canadian birth certificate, is at least โ€œup front about it,โ€ she said.

        Read more: http://macklyons.blogspot.com/2013/08/unlike-that-awful-negro-conservatives.html#ixzz2ilUjfpSd

        • mailorderwife says:

          …and what do Americans know of Kenyans, much less of Africans? Didn’t Sarah Palin think Africa was a country?

        • xoot says:

          I heard a radio version of this story on the way to work this morning. The tea-baggers are just disposable ground troops/cannon fodder for the really evil guys planning the war and pushing the buttons.

          http://www.sacbee.com/2013/10/25/5850222/dan-morain.html

          • sandy32koufax says:

            With billions of $$ arrayed against the middle class in general and unions in specific, is it any wonder that the “real” focus has been kept off of the grand prizes for which the Bros Koch and other like-minded puppeteers have in store for Americans? A nation of only haves/have-nots. The greatest redistribution of wealth in favor of the 1% is taking place, unabated, and the only true hopes we have of stanching that are groups of people that band together from disparate backgrounds; lawyers and railway brakemen, for example.

            Citizens United is a burden to everyone in the havenot category and must be, somehow, overturned. Roberts’ court is paving the way for these types of abuses. If freedom of speech is a right, then how is it that there are legal ways to avoid disclosure of political donors? Insanity is the order of our State Of The Union

            • shoelessinlassen says:

              Spot on. Citizen’s United is the most flagrant ruling in favor of a corporate-managed coup of the American political system. I’m still an optimist, however, and believe it doomed to fail … in, say, a hundred years or less. Until then, I’ll resist – they’ll never take me dead or alive.

  76. sandy32koufax says:

    BTW, MOW, any word from Japan on this latest large temblor?

    • mailorderwife says:

      Sent out a message but haven’t heard from my family. They should be okay although I have a cousin who has been living in Ibaraki (where that big tsunami hit). Just another darn fact about living in Japon.

  77. sandy32koufax says:

    BAD jints MANAGEMENT! I’m surprised the resident travelogue-ist hasn’t picked this up and run with it…

    http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/U-S-Department-of-Labor-investigating-San-4928444.php

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Spoke too soon. The guy has already soiled on that web page too.

    • mailorderwife says:

      This thoroughly disgusts me.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Hey, it’s not as far reaching nor does it impact as many as what McWhoops and the Guggies have done to people’s lives. It does make me wonder what other abuses take place within all of big time sports though. I’ve never seen a union shop go south on me but have worked at shops with double-gates and letters of intent that used some “creative accounting” to avoid paying us properly. Kaufman & Broad, anyone?

      • shoelessinlassen says:

        Still under investigation. Not enough details in article to draw conclusions. I think I’ll wait at least until the fat man in the third isle sings.

    • xoot says:

      every mlb team has its clubhouse laborers, etc., working split shifts, I think. Keep them on the clock and they’re owed OT. I’ll bet you that’s the biggest part of the problem. (I’m guessing, however.) Calif. law’s probably more protective than are the laws of other states, but federal law kicks in, as a backup. I’m neither surprised nor outraged. I’m glad someone blew the whistle. Big back-pay checks will issue and things’ll improve going forward. The lawyers who approved the current wages and hours policies must’ve f ‘ ed up.

      My younger kid’s second grade teacher got a job working with the ground crew at China Basin. Huge Giants and baseball fan, he was pumped. He probably would’ve worked for free. It’s easy to take advantage of workers who are excited by the opportunity. (The Raiders legal department, for example, relies heavily on law-student interns who are just thrilled to be involved in sports law.)

  78. sandy32koufax says:

    On a baseball note, isn’t it great that no DH will be seen for the next three games ๐Ÿ™‚ ?

    Cards need to sweep @home. Giterdun!

    • xoot says:

      no DH and no GBA, let’s hope. God Bless Obamacare would be ok with me, though.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      No DH is the right way to play the game. Too bad it appears on the way out to make room for a more rigged – pseudo post steroidal / HGH – offensive kind of game.

  79. shoelessinlassen says:

    The Red Sox field some of the worst beards in all the majors. “Boston Scraggly.”

  80. xoot says:

    Sandy, I tried to post this on the splash in reply to your comment on this topic, but the new software wasn’t working. http://tinyurl.com/n3y8uu5

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      If by not working, you mean a penchant to “hang” and chugging failure to successful “submit” one’s post, then same here.

      “Powered by Viafoura” is a euphemism for “Powered by the Finest Cow Flatulence SFGate Money Can Buy”.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        I didn’t fully express why I was writing that comment, I think Lincecum would do himself a great service throwing live games and getting his Maddux, or whatever he’s trying to become, on. These rules would seem to eliminate his opportunity to play in those leagues, so even if it’s something he wants to do to improve his game for 4-6 starts, he won’t be allowed unless exempted by the jints. I don’t see that happening. Shame. That friend, btw, was Carney Lansford and he played winter ball until his fifth or sixth MLB season I believe. Cal Ripken and Tony Gwynn used to take advantage of the extra at bats against good, live pitching too. Another guy I knew in HS was Mark Langston and he too played winter ball into his 3rd or 4th MLB season but played one season later in his career, according to him “to be sharp for the spring.” Times change.

        Ya, I was trying to respond to some dick on a story about the BART strike and it posted like 32 times. Worthless shit. And repubs are whining about Obama’s websites? ๐Ÿ™‚

        THIS is going to really be a challenge at the E.coli: “Off-field improvements for players include the requirement of MLB-certified trainers, higher-quality equipment and increased standards for fields, clubhouses and bathrooms, with a compliance program to address issues.” It’s from the link xoot posted about the new rules governing winter ball and negotiations between MLB and MLBPA.

        • xoot says:

          At some general WS annual meeting today Slusser asked Selig about the A’s ballpark situation. Apparently he said he was really happy about the San Jose federal court judge’s recent decision on the A/T exemption, and then said the move to San Jose presents “very complex” issues. Indeed.

          First Red Sux hit of the night and Fox is busy interviewing a beard in the dugout.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            I really appreciate Slusser most of the time but sometimes she is too “homer” for me, a la Krook. I’d love for MLB to fight, tooth and nail against the A’s getting relief through the courts but in the end they’ll cave to try and preserve what remains of their monopoly exemption. Too bad for a number of real reasons but, and I know this is as bad as what they do, just to piss off and make their anxiety levels peak, mossass and spats. I detest those shits.

            Bottom of the 7th, Cards up by two…Tazman throwing strikes and winning the matchups.

            Go Cardinals!

  81. sandy32koufax says:

    And Kozma continues his Quacking.

  82. mailorderwife says:

    What a series…

  83. sandy32koufax says:

    Time to pull Molina and try the suicide squeeze!

  84. sandy32koufax says:

    WOOT! Controversy reigns!

  85. mailorderwife says:

    Yeah, the legs were up in the air but that’s not what tripped the runner. CONTROVERSY IS SO AWESOME.

  86. shoelessinlassen says:

    Wow! Ball flies by Middlebrooks’ glove, who sprawled out at third base, nonetheless has the ‘wherewithal’ to bend his legs 90 degrees to the sky with what appears to be an intentional effort to impede Craig’s progress to home. The right call by the plate umpire.

    Tim McCarver, in his infinite wisdom, spoke on behalf of Middlebrooks, explaining it clearly wasn’t intentional. But, a review of Middlebrooks’ knee/leg position shows an otherwise quite unnatural 90 degree bend of the knees, uncannily timed to correspond precisely with Craig’s attempt to get past him and race for home. At least I did not see it as anything but as an understandably desperate ploy by Middlebrooks to keep the winning run from scoring. Don’t blame. But, Cards rightly won!

  87. Chico says:

    Boston fans, STFU… Middlebrooks put his legs up and obstructed the runner. Good, gutsy call by the umps.. Read the fucking rulebook! (I’m second guessing this whole facebook baseball talk). Whiny little children who act on emotion..

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Dude, yer chatting ball on FB? WTF???

      • Chico says:

        Some really knowledgable folks on FB.. It’s the sentimental newbies #Bostonstrong crowd that are fucking annoying. #Joplinstrong.

        • mailorderwife says:

          #BostonWhine

          • Chico says:

            Exactly..

            • sandy32koufax says:

              I’m cool not hanging at FB much. Alla that “strong” shit is played.

            • mailorderwife says:

              SFDF and I had a talk about Boston Strong, and how its original sympathetic cheer origins has turned into full blown retard. It’s supposed to be of a singular, tragic event that now applies to everything that Boston does. It was the cheer for the Boston Bruins for a sport that supports full on teeth punching, and it’s probably used as a slogan for #BostonStrongBakedBeans or #BostonStranglerStrong. Not to make light of the original event, but these sort of things dilute the intent. Yeah…I don’t live there so what do I know? Except that I’m pretty sick of it.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      Good call, Chico! Of course, ESPN radio is trying to squeeze every last drop of ‘controversy’ out of the call, by claiming even though it was the right call – according to “Rule 2” in the MLB rule book, the call still “stinks” and will drive younger fans away from the game of baseball … and on and on it will go into the wee hours of sometimes mind-numbing and mindless sports talk radio.

  88. Chico says:

    Boston fans are talking about a rule change.. LOL, lets allow the intentional tripping of base runners.. *bangs head against wall*

    • mailorderwife says:

      Jerry Remy, their announcer or something, decided to follow me on twitter. He’s been retweeting hundreds of opinions from BoSox fans who have been pretty much calling for rule changes, replays and just general BS. Silliness.

      • sandy32koufax says:

        REALLY? Well, think about it-there was the Brady Rule or some such…

        • mailorderwife says:

          What was that? I just remember Bellishit is a poor sport and a cheat.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            And his pretty-boy QB’s mother wears army boots!

            • mailorderwife says:

              Pretty-boy QB has a moat in his mansion, along with a rain water collector. To collect rain in Southern California. Rain that falls once every 14 years. But he’s so ECO.

              • sandy32koufax says:

                IDBelieve I’m saying because there are parts of it that are pretty racist and, apparently, he doesn’t notice but Ostler is worth reading just for the way he slams the A’s and a few other funny ones. Beware though, it has some racist comments to me.

  89. xoot says:

    Obstruction is what you’d call a strict liability violation. Doesn’t require intent; a guy who can’t get out of the way commits it. But if it is intentional, then some other rules can kick in, too. I think someone in the media should suggest that mlb review the video to determine if the obstruction last night (the refusal to try to get out of the way, the upside down kicking of the spikes) was so willful as to warrant a one-game suspension for Middlebrooks. The bean eaters would go crazy then.

  90. xoot says:

    Reverent RIP:

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      Damn. Before Nirvana there was Velvet Underground. Lou Reed, unlike Curt Cobain, however, managed to survive … right up until his 71 year old liver finally wore out.

  91. xoot says:

    Less reverent:

    • sandy32koufax says:

      “Time’s marches on” seems to become Time sprints by with each year and death I associate with the different times of my life. Having rock royalty salute you is a cool thing, reverent or no.

      RIP, Transformer and thanks

    • mailorderwife says:

      Will always be one of my favorites:

      • shoelessinlassen says:

        “Heroin” somewhat scared the shit out of me. But, was so effective in the movie, Requiem For A Dream. RIP Lou.

  92. sandy32koufax says:

    Sunday, October 27
    News
    โ€“ Per Buster Olney, the Chicago Cubs are said to be looking at Rick Renteria in their quest to look for โ€” possibly โ€” a bilingual manager.

    Wouldn’t a winning mgr make more sense than a merely bi-lingual mgr? I mean, he’s been in the SD family for yrs now and what have they won since his arrival?

  93. xoot says:

    This bullshit talk about changing the obstruction rule because of last night’s final play is ridiculous. Intent is and should be irrelevant. If you’re not making a play get the fuck out of the way. Moreover, impose an “intent” requirement for obstruction you need to do the same for interference. Did the guy intentionally kick his bunt as he ran to first? Did he intentionally spin out of the batter’s box and block the catcher who was trying to throw out a stealing runner? Or, back to the obstruction side of play (despite the common name), how about the catcher — did he INTENTIONALLY let the swinging bat hit his mitt? Stupid dispute. The general solicitude for Boston sux. I hope they lose a close game 7 at home and then start lobbying to have the WS go 9.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      I don’t expect any rules committee to enact changes that make sense or are for the benefit of any sport, except increasing it’s bottom line. I know, tired shit but it’s too true. Why are DB’s so handcuffed in covering receivers or why aren’t linemen more well protected by rules about blocking? Hell, NBA created a rule for two guys that is a shitty piece of work-Dennis Rodman and Rasheed Wallace had the two-technical rule made in the anger’s honor. It’s still a lame rule created out of bias against two uber spirited, albeit actual trouble-making, players.

      It is bull and it’s funny that this is the third time that I can think of that rule changes have been bandied about involving Beantown teams-the two other cases actually prompted such alteration. Brady-the tuck rule and something which involved Kevin McHale in the 80’s, I think.

      The only town that has been the genesis of worse types of rules change has to be Oakland and Finley getting the DH instituted.

  94. sandy32koufax says:

    These tools saying that because the rule ended a WS game and should therefore be “looked at,” including Torre-Selig’s lapdog, are killing me. The rule, all rules exist for a real reason. When the time comes for some obscure rule to be enforced, especially in a situ like game 3, is not cause for it or any other rule to be altered. This Selig administration continues to fuck baseball up. More of the “This time it counts” bullshit

    • mailorderwife says:

      Do you really think they’d look at the rules if it were any team other than the BoSox or Yunkees? MLB is salivating that the WS has finally come back to a major major US city, after toiling in the relative obscurity of non-top 3 markets, so they have to put on A SHOW. If Elvis Andrus were the runner and Matt Dominguez were the third baseman, they wouldn’t blink an eye.

  95. sandy32koufax says:

    Man, FOX has it’s crew acting like homers for the Bosox. Buck’s just another tool like Chris Schenkel was and he’ll be around til death but Deion Sanders had it right when he doused McCarver with water:

  96. Chico says:

    Mistake pitch to Gomes.. And the boy from Petaluma jumped on it.

  97. shoelessinlassen says:

    Red Sox back to their home run antics. Maness in relief of Lynn … not so much.

  98. sandy32koufax says:

    I think the pickoff rule needs to be changed! It’s so arbitrary, I mean, how do we know what wong’s intent was? he didn’t LOOK like he was going to try and steal second…

  99. mailorderwife says:

    Okay…I’m rooting for Boston. Had enough racist Wong tweets from St. Louis fans on Twitter. Fuck off, Middle America.

    • shoelessinlassen says:

      24 hour right wing talk radio and Faux News has emboldened (to borrow one of the Cheney-Bush White House talking points about ‘the enemy’) the self-righteous, the bigoted, small-minded American, who lives in the ‘heartland’. Too bad. They lack the wisdom to guide them; and even less excusable, they lack the heart – that is, the requisite empathy to feel what it might be like to be someone other than their own petty, self-absorbed, cowardly little life.

      By the closer to home examples, Bryan Stow being mercilessly beaten and nearly killed did not impact my being pro or con for the Dodgers, or Jonathon Denver being killed near the Giants park are not truly representative of the baseball fan mentality. No. There are just some rotten individuals, who dwell among us, and who exist to seek out and exploit any opportunity to unleash their own unhappy, cruel lives upon others.

      I guess I will again *compartmentalize* the team from the fan. I will still root for the Cards, MOW. But, on the other hand, if the Cards do lose, then perhaps, the gods will have spoken: What comes around goes around. Karma. Cosmic justice reigns. (No way to prove this), but, perhaps, the turning point in this series began with Uehara’s brilliant pickoff of Wong to close out game 4, followed by a few or a slough of bigoted Mid-west ‘fans’ … perhaps, less fans of the game than fans of the racist heart?

      Last night’s game was a must-win for Boston. They did. They have assured a return to Fenway.

      Tonight: Must win for St. Louis. No ands, ifs, or Twitter too.

  100. sandy32koufax says:

    evancampbell posted this on a story about Welsh populations west of UK. What a numbfuck, biz must be uber bad for the guy:

    http://southernconeguidebooks.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-brown-was-my-valley.html

  101. mailorderwife says:

    New week, new post!

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