What to do with The Freak

Another week, another maddening outing from Timmy Tomko..err..Lincecum.

The offense bailed him out last night, rallying to score 9 runs on the reliable incompetence of the Colorado Rockies pitching staff. But Timmy did not look good, most notably in the 2nd inning when he gave up five runs.

The worst part about it is, aside from that one inning, the guy looked good. He was striking batters out and his stuff was moving all over the place. When he’s on, he’s still the guy who won two Cy Young awards. But when he’s off… hoo boy…

Short of a trade, it’s not like there’s much of an alternative to having Timmy in the rotation at this point. Despite the sense that moving him to the bullpen may make for the team, nobody in Fresno is close, unless you think the reanimated corpse of Boof Bonser is going to take the league by storm.

Fortunately, there is help elsewhere in the rotation, and from an unlikely source. It seems playoff Barry Zito is still with us and pitching some downright respectable baseball. If he keeps it up, the team might be able to stay afloat and then some while Timmy continues to work through whatever the hell it is that’s got him so out of whack.

Of course, then there’s the offseason conundrum that arises. If Lincecum isn’t his old self, he’s probably not coming back. Then again, if he finds his old self again, he’s probably going to be too expensive to resign as well. Zito, meanwhile, has a club option which, and I never thought I’d say this, could make sense for the Giants. If he’s locked in as number four, the idea of rolling the dice with a guy like Chris Heston (soft thrower with good secondary stuff) or a vet free agent at the #5 spot becomes far more palatable.

But, that’s for another day to worry about. Right now, we need to see more of first inning Timmy and way, way less of 2nd inning Timmy.

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348 Responses to What to do with The Freak

  1. filthychangeup says:

    Doesn’t seem like he ever knows where the pitch is going, but has more control of the off speed stuff. Too bad it’s not as simple as plopping him down in front of video of his past dominance. Does anyone know if he’s throwing a two or four seam FB regularly? I remember when he first came up he was throwing a two seamer as his primary FB.

  2. shaman138 says:

    Today is Hair Plugz’ birthday, so let’s all celebrate by treating ourselves to a facial hair waxing!

  3. Chico says:

    Control… For some reason his fastballs are missing and sometimes they’re not even close to the black – but he’s missing low which is better than missing up. If he continues to walk batters he’s going to get rocked. He only had one very bad inning last night and only gave up 2 hits in that inning, again, the walks.

    I don’t think he lacks confidence like some think. It’s mechanics. All in all last night wasn’t that bad of a game for him other than that one dreaded bad inning. The good thing is it’s in his best interest to fix the problem soon, or he’ll lose out on millions and nobody wants to see that happen.

  4. xoot says:

    His two-seam FB moves like crazy. If he threw those things down the middle at the knees he’d be getting swing thrus and foul balls. Then the change would be devastating. As is, however, the hitters can take pitches because the FBs he aims at the corners move off the plate (and, sometimes, bounce). For some reason, coming in unexpectedly from the pen in the PS and working solely out of the stretch, he had better command. Being in the rotation is a different regimen.

    Zito’s club option vests with him if he pitches 200 innings this season. He has reached the 190s 3 times with the Giants (199.1 in 2010 — how that happened is hard to recall). He threw 184 last year. September will probably have a Zito subplot or two.

  5. Chico says:

    Pablo gets the day off which makes sense because Arias likes hitting lefties.

  6. mailorderwife says:

    Nice throw, Tulo!

  7. JDR says:

    And Arias comes through! I get the feeling they’re going to need to put some runs up today. In daytime with no wind this can be a live yard.

  8. Chico says:

    Good first inning. Posey triples in Pagan, Arias hit a great pitch up for that single, and Belt gets a hit. We need him to get going. Poor guy has seen A LOT of lefties so far.

  9. Chico says:

    Stay hot Crawford!

  10. mailorderwife says:

    Zito tries so hard. Got to respect that!

  11. Chico says:

    Have a game Buster!

  12. xoot says:

    I’m following the game on the computer, but the video clips are clear — Buster’s got the inside-out swing going. Next AB, maybe they’ll miss inside and he’ll yank one into LF. Cycle anyone?

  13. shaman138 says:

    Not that I mind or anything, but Jeff Francis is just horrid today. The Crockies are going to have a long season.

  14. JDR says:

    Andres the Giant!

  15. filthychangeup says:


  16. shaman138 says:

    Wow, we are just spanking them. Leaving the game last night, I had no doubt we’d win today and get the sweep and told my buddy that, but I didn’t expect this. If the Warriors or whoever can find a way to bounce the stupid TurdNuggets out of the playoffs, Denver fans are going to have a long summer to dream about Peyton.

    • JDR says:

      As long as they don’t do those stupid t-shirt basketball jerseys…

      • Chico says:

        Yep, and as long as they didn’t go full on crazy like Oregon and Maryland did with the ridiculous unis. I like the matte helmets, and the ‘CAL’ script is a little bigger than before, but I don’t mind it at all.

        • Chico says:

          MOW, your thoughts on the unis? It’s always nice to get a female’s perspective..

          • mailorderwife says:

            I appreciate the simplicity in the design and streamline of colors. I’m not into those jerseys that look like it was drawn by Stevie Wonder, ya know?

  17. Chico says:

    Torres is swinging it.

  18. mailorderwife says:

    Really a different Zito from 2 years ago.

  19. Chico says:

    Posey, single double and a triple..

  20. Chico says:

    Tulo has a hole in his glove.

  21. Chico says:

    Zito with another hit..

  22. xoot says:

    Zito’s BA is now .750.

  23. filthychangeup says:

    Great game!

  24. mailorderwife says:

    ORD had cancelled 800+ flights today. Hope the Giants can fly in safely.

  25. Chico says:


  26. sandy32koufax says:

    Really LA??

    Zits sounds like he was way on again today.

    jints O too.


  27. mailorderwife says:

    Ann Killion has a stupid story about the Posey-Lincecum “issue”. This is not a new story, but the opening paragraph is so poorly written. Again, another example of HACK.

    • xoot says:

      I took a look at it. Once again Killion’s inventing a problem so she’ll have something to write about. And, as you say, she’s writing poorly. Adios, chronicle/sfgate.

  28. Chico says:

    It’s amazing how easy it is for a ballplayer to jack one out in the gaps at Wrigley. Giants look flat.. RISP.

  29. Chico says:

    Fugly so far.

  30. Chico says:

    That’s more like it.

  31. filthychangeup says:

    I sure hope Sandy wasn’t right about Vogelsong, not ready for him to turn back into a pumpkin just yet. Nice to see the bats rally, facing Cubbies pitching helps though.

  32. Chico says:

    Tie game.

  33. mailorderwife says:

    Cubs are sort of lucky to have fans.

  34. Chico says:

    How did Pagan catch that?

  35. mailorderwife says:

    Noonan is bank! And yeah…Pagan makes a spectacular catch.

  36. Chico says:

    Swear to god Sandy, (not you), but Dodger fans are the most homophobic fans there are. Almost every single one makes a gay reference to something. I think half of these little groms are gay themselves, they talk about it enough.

    • sandy32koufax says:


      There is a major disconnect between understanding what is and isn’t “cool” to say or write and Americans in general guilty of using gay slurs.

      Imagine going to an Atl game, do you really suppose the fans there are not worse than ANY west coast fans? Many cities have higher rates, I’m sure, of intolerant and insensitive fans re homophobia.

      Hell Chico, I’ve heard people at atnt use gay slurs every time I’ve ever been there or at the stick…

      • Chico says:

        Fire up your facebook and go to ‘Dodger fans vs Dodger haters showdown’. 90% of the comments by Dodger fans are gay sex acts or calling others gay. It’s actually quite funny and repetitive, and sad too.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          Non compos facebookos.

          Go sit in your local bar and pay attention to how many times you’ll hear “that’s gay” or some such…it’s endemic, an increasingly frowned upon part of everyday slang.

          You’re just seeing the Dfans using poor judgement and want to call attention to that.

          I don’t recall ANYONE mentionin an even more troubling issue-the jfans that gave the A’s fan a beat down after their game at atnt in March. That’s far more serious to me.

          • JDR says:

            That is troubling. More should be done to protect such an endangered species.

          • Chico says:

            There are fights at Lacrosse matches dude.. A fight doesn’t label a fan base – 90% of Dodgers fans on that page are clearly homophobic, or gay themselves. Not that there’s anything wrong with being gay.

            Oh I know, I have some ignorant friends who I grew up with that are ignorant people but the majority are pretty cool. At my local watering hole almost everyone is mature enough to look past the hate.

          • Chico says:

            Sandy, I love you in a non-gay way.

            • sandy32koufax says:

              Seriously guys, the violence attendant around sporting events has become a quite problematic over the years. What used to be isolated incidents are now commonplace. Think gun violence and how that has become so “usual” that people are inured of it.

              Even A’s fans, hell-jints fans deserve better than to worry about being assaulted when trying to enjoy a game or going for a beer or dinner after one.

              BTW, I’m glad you didn’t say “Sandy, I love you IN a non-gay way.”


              • mailorderwife says:

                A Whole New Blue isn’t going to get me to ever go back to Dodger stadium for a Giants game. Husband and I are already discussing the possibility of Padres season tickets so that we can see the Giants down there. Petco is very nice, and the Padres fans are pretty amazing and laid back. San Diego hotels and businesses are also very receptive to Giants fans, and never miss a chance to express how our fan base is superior to the jerks that come down from Los Angeles.

                Somehow, this seems like a bit more pleasant than attending an A’s/Giants game. When did things get so bad between the teams. Perhaps the World Series?

              • Chico says:

                Typo, bro. I’m telling you, check out that FB page..

          • xoot says:

            I went to the final gameof the series between the Giants and A’s at the E Coli last year and the A’s fans, at least down in the good seats, couldn’t have been better. I saw a lot of 30-40ish men wearing A’s hats with little kids wearing Giants hats. That delightful detail matched my experience in the Oakland LLeague.

  37. Chico says:

    Ballgame. Nice comeback win!

  38. Chico says:

    MOW and Xoot, well done on the Killion article!

  39. Chico says:

    Don;t throw at Carlos Quentin.

  40. JDR says:

    Not to make light of the injury, but the good news is that Barry Bonds is now only the *second* least popular ballplayer in LA.

    • Chico says:

      Dylan Hernandez ‏@dylanohernandez 13m
      As Quentin walked into the parking lot, Kemp told him, “We’ll see, bitch.”

      • mailorderwife says:

        Wow…Kemp, Greinke, that violent third baseman that was schooled by the failed hockey players…sounds like internet tough guys. Prove it on the field, putzes.

  41. xoot says:

    AJ Ellis looked pretty foolish just standing there waiting to see what CQ was going to do. The players’ statements after the game were funny. Kemp wandered into Snodfart joke territory and Greinke couldn’t seem to understand why plunking Quentin repeatedly could lead to a blowup like that. What’ll be the length of CQ’s suspension? 15 games?

  42. datswhatsup says:

    Greinke was not trying to hit CQ
    CQ gets hit a lot, but doesn’t charge the mound much
    Greinke hit CQ in 2009 and CQ had to be retrained
    Dodgers hit CQ night before

    Given all of this CQ should have let it go and seemed to stop…until Greinke decided to be a fake tough guy (FTG) and curse at CQ.

    If you do that you had better be one of three things
    A guy who knows how to fight
    A guy with a catcher not named AJ Ellis
    A fast runner

    • mailorderwife says:

      It doesn’t help that their beat writers and the LA Dodger team are stirring up the pot. The Dodgers tweeted a photo of Ron Burgundy (“Anchorman”) with the caption “STAY CLASSY, SAN DIEGO”. The beat writers are chasing after CQ, and the Dodger fans on Twitter are screaming for blood, and have spent all evening trashing the city of San Diego and its residents.

      Good Lord, you morons. I hope there are no Poodres fans hoping to attend the game at Chavez Latrine. It isn’t the same fan base as the Dodgers of the 70’s.

  43. datswhatsup says:

    As news spreads here are some more observations to the scuffle

    Most accurate report so far “Kemp became more vocal once the sides had be separated”, he’s the new Pedro Guerrero

    A.J. Ellis is in the running to be the Captain of Team Switzerland in the next WBC

    FTG Greinke’s body language was great when he realized no one was going to stop CQ

    The photo of Richard and Kemp after the game was great, Kemposer may be a FTG, but he’s no dope he wanted no piece of Richard

    Good thing no one got Ethier in a headlock, plugs would have been flying and injured an eye

    Sellers felt violated as an unknown player was humping the back of his neck thinking that sweet tattoo was a cheerleaders tramp stamp

    Josh Beckett tried to grab CQ but the fried chicken grease made it too tough

    There is no Candy Maldonado on that dodger team

    I thought Whiteside looked like a dork hopping up and down versus Phily…until I saw A.J.’s performance

    Come to think of it instead of hot dog races (MIL) or President races (WAS) LA could have A.J, AGon and Cruz race along the outfield wall with shirts with an “S”, “CAR” and “GO”

    Fat Tommy Lasorda was quoted as saying he invented fighting in baseball

    I bet Greinke’s fear of crowds kicked up a bunch at the bottom of that pile

    Why does Kemposer feel the need to tell I CQ “we’ll see bitch” when he is standing toe to toe, handle it or be quiet.

    I have heard of being paralyzed with fear, is that what happened to Greinke’s arms when CQ got to him?

    On the bright side thank goodness Manny is not with LA anymore, if in the scrum someone kicked manny in the nuts they may have broken Dodger announcer Charlie Steiners jaw.

    • mailorderwife says:

      Love the hair plugs stuff, although I was crushing on Ethier for a few years. He is sort of cute.

      Fried chicken LOL. Beckett needs to be suspended for his “charitable” fund.

      And A.J. Ellis. Wow, dude. Bok bok?

      And Kemp? You know, mofo’s…as a fan of the SF Giants, I have to live in this hell hole that is L.A., and we don’t need some asshole riling up the fans. This is a violent fan base that doesn’t know that it’s JUST A GAME, and people like me suffer the consequences. STFU already. At least in SD, the fans there know damn well that it’s a game and never give Giants fans a hard time when we take over their ballpark.

  44. sandy32koufax says:

    Most HBP batter in the bigs the past 5 seasons with 97 is CQ. He will TOFTT as often as he can, that’s his M.O. Dude looks like a pin-cushion for roids too. Gotta agree with a quote I read in the Times about the situation, LA up by only 1 would NOT call for walking or hitting the batter intentionally-“personal history” or not.

    Ellis has been on my shitlist as a poor defensive catcher since his arrival and his lack of protection for his pitcher places him even lower, imo. As to this crap about Greinke bringing this on himself? REALLY? A guy approaches in a menacing manner is his choice and, ultimately, his own fault.

    I didn’t see any of the game or even hear about the fight, etc., until this morning. Most of what I know comes from the Times stories I’ve read. Sounds like the league office is trying to orchestrate their own version of the facts or why else put a gag order on the umps? As for suspensions, Greinke wasn’t under a warning by the ump so he shouldn’t receive one. Neither should any other LA player unless they actually broke a rule which is punishable by suspension. I’m damn tired of Selig or his hirlings doing things to make the league look good instead of doing things based on “the rules” or common sense as opposed to good PR.

    Give CQ some serious down time for his actions-if it’s a 3-5 game suspension for throwing at a guy after being warned about it, then what does injuring a player, apparently on purpose, merit?
    I like the “as long as Greinke’s out injured” as a guideline…

    • mailorderwife says:

      It appears that both Greinke and CQ have a history, so who knows what the real motive was? In any case, the catcher should have been the first line of defense, and not some pitcher who is DROPPING HIS SHOULDERS for a tackle.

      On a more important note, R.I.P. Jonathan Winters. Oh, how he made me laugh when I was a little one.

      • JDR says:

        Greinke had the right idea, he just executed it poorly. When a guy charges you, either you go all Nolan Ryan and clock the guy, or you wrap him up and wait for the cavalry (or if you’re Kyle Farnsworth you take his ass down before he even gets out of the box.) Greinke needed to square and wrap-up on the tackle like they teach in Pee Wee football.

        • mailorderwife says:

          Shawn Estes had an interesting observation on the fight, stating that CQ didn’t just immediately charge. He was waiting for a reaction, which Greinke kindly provided. Hence, KAPOW.

          Is it justified? No. But there is something to be said about just being an adult and keeping your mouth shut.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            This “history” works against CQ in a greater way, suspension-wise, than the other guy. Like I said, the situation wasn’t “hit the guy,” it was get him out. Q wanted to glare dude down so dude called him on it, so what? That is no justification to charge the mound in an early season tight game. As nto being an adult, Q threw that out the window from the second he needed to show his machismo. G didn’t stay over 16 yrs old either with whatever his crack to Q was. Bottom line? They both share some degree of culpability in this but the lions’ share rests with the padre. He made it into a physical thing.

            LA needs many things-I’ve been carping on AJ for two yrs now-start with a catcher that can play his position and won’t allow his pitcher to be man-handled!

            • mailorderwife says:

              The Dodgers have a right to be angry, but they should also diffuse the situation instead of inflame it, which seems to be the modus operandi. Even Magic has gotten into the act, and this saddens me greatly. To treat it like a WWE showdown is irresponsible.

              Which brings me to the “glaring down” and “so what”. The guy has 50lbs. on him. Walk away and do the right thing, instead of throwing your gloves down and inflaming someone who is already unstable.

            • datswhatsup says:

              what was Greinke showing when he cussed him?

              MLB was all over CQ, then the TV shot showing Greinke cussing at him was aired.

              You can’t make him be out as long as Greinke because then when Kemp charges the mound and injures Noonan, the Giants have Noonan go all Rodey Dangerfield in Caddyshack “My arm it’s broken” and the Giants decide to shut Noony down for 10 months to “allow him to heal”

  45. JDR says:

    Still, in all honesty I would be pretty pissed had this happened to a Giants pitcher, say Bumgarner or Vogelsong… though Vogey would have given CQ a death stare that would have stopped him in his tracks and Maddie would have hog-tied the guy with his shoelaces.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Q is buffed (PEDs?), has a bad temper and apparently a history of gettin down, albeit off-field, when he chooses to. IDK that any chukker on the jints that has to faceoff against a hit batsman with the backup catchers you have or with Belt n Sando n Crawford. Posey? Who knows, he IS a nice guy but would he let his pitcher get mauled? Doubt it…

      • mailorderwife says:

        Timmy is always the first to fly out of the dugout whenever there is threat of a fight. I bet he’ll go all Pacquiao on CQ.

      • datswhatsup says:

        Kemp isn’t buff?

        As much as I goofed on AJ I think CQ’s pause made AJ pause, then he was just too slow.

        Not sure why AGon and Cruz were not there, perhaps because with two strikes they were playing deep…but Candy made it to save Clark which will always make him a Giant to me!

    • mailorderwife says:

      I’d like to think Buster would get in the way before anything happened, but that makes me squeamish.

      This all makes me so nervous. I’m used to hockey fights, because that is so expected.

      • datswhatsup says:

        Timmy would get snapped like a twig, CQ has 80 lbs on him

      • sandy32koufax says:

        Timmeh is mighty tiny and one good shot to his jaw or collar bone and BYE-BYE for how long? He’s better served directing traffic than actually trying to trade blows with the big boiz.

        Fuck, this is the first, I fear, in what will become a series of mondo stupid acts of pride from this particular group of Dodgers. Money makes some people think they are above the law-in this case especially.

        Bigger picture is that this shit has only escalated for years now. IDMean only MLB violence either. Back when Washington clocked Tomjanovich (sp?) Wash got a 25 game suspension. That was the old NBA. Today should have even harsher penalties-these guys have been to seminars, etc., to not only learn to keep their money and friends in a “safe place” but also to keep their anger in check and to avoid getting physically violent. As long as no one pays a “real price” for their bad behaviors, why should a player or coach change them? Same goes for PEDs and rape. Can you say Big Ben, Kobe?

  46. datswhatsup says:

    If you didn’t mean to hit him don’t mouth off.

    Greinke acted tough and brought a slap to a boxing match (I wanted to say knife to a gun fight but it seems poor taste).

    I don’t want anyone to get hurt, but Greinke could have stopped it by lifting his palms up or “saying why wouyld I hit you there” (think Greg Maddux) instead chose to curse out a guy he just hit (for the 3rd time) with a 90mph sphere.

  47. JDR says:

    Alright, so which Giants pitcher do you take in a fight? I still say Vogey, he looks like he’s ready to tear someone’s head off even on a good day. I bet Pence rips his shirt off on the way into the scrum.

    • mailorderwife says:

      Hmm…Santiago Casilla or Romo. Starters? I’d take Timmy. He’s flex and wiry, and he’s got pinoy blood. He’ll hit someone with his shoes.

    • datswhatsup says:

      Affeldt, dude knifed himself…that’s badass

      • sandy32koufax says:


        I learned a long time ago that those big quiet guys don’t like to fight, usually.

        It’s when they feel threatened enough to throw down that they show their mettle. Cain is a big corn fed dude that has the size and focus to be a knockout guy.

  48. mailorderwife says:

    Cain is a bit off his game right now.

  49. filthychangeup says:

    I saw the clip, CQ did NOTHING to get out of the way, if anything he leaned into the pitch. Both he and Grienke are Tools.

  50. Chico says:

    I think it would be wise for the Dodgers to chill a bit.. Everyone is saying that they are out for ‘blood’ and that Kemp said that ‘pain’ is coming…

    The Giants look flatter than lake Pillsbury right now.

  51. Chico says:

    Stalky guys are one thing when it comes to what happened last night, which was basically a football hit..

    It’s the wiry guys that can usually box. . Guys like Pagan, etc.

  52. sandy32koufax says:

    I just saw this HBP for the first time then listened to Nomars’ take on the entire thing.

    Q never4 heads towards first to take his base, instead he starts for the mound then stops then jogs out to be alla his badass self.

    Fuck him. Suspend his macho bitchass 50 games…

  53. shaman138 says:

    Are we really getting schooled by Carlos Villanueva and David DeJesus today? Meh, sometimes baseball is like that after an intense day like yesterday.

  54. unca_chuck says:

    I don’t see how CQ gets anything more than a couple games for this. Greinke obviously says something to CQ after the plunk that provoked him even more than the getting plunked did. And, there WAS a history between the 2. Greinke says he didn’t hit him on purpose any of the 3 times, but he HAS hit him 3 times, CQ being a plate diver or not.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      And WORDS or not, Q is a grownup. Unless he gets hit by a Greinke pitch?

      No one made him drive his shoulder into G except himself. The blames begins and ends with Q.

      Jocks need to live in the real world too. Didn’t Braun use “real world” tactics to retain his MVP award? Things should work both ways. Maybe G should sue Q or try pressing assault charges. I mean, that’s just as ridiculous as saying G provoked him as an excuse…

  55. unca_chuck says:

    Don’t get me wrong. I think Quentin is a punk of the highest order (but not as bad as Kemp), but he now has a target on his back.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      So how does that target get hit w/o a pitcher being at least ejected?

      LA pitchers won’t be allowed to hit the poor lil bastardo for fear of suspension…

  56. Chico says:

    When CQ stopped his charge towards the mound, Greinke shouldn’t have said anything. Bottom line, imo. He started to charge the mound again AFTER Greinke said something.

    CQ is also on record that if Greinke ever drilled him again, he’d charge the mound.. He kept his promise. It’s too bad Greinke broke his collarbone though.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      jints fan.

      Your entire comment reinforces my point: Q made a threat that his machismo couldn’t allow him to NOT follow through on. Putzfuck. (Q, not you)

      That should also play into his suspension time, another mitigating factor to lengthen his time off of the field. Retribution has a price. So should making threats then carrying them out…

      • Chico says:

        Dodger fan, CQ comes off as a punk for that – but didn’t Greinke get the message? When a dog growls, he’s telling you to back off and you better listen..

        5 game suspension is fine in this case.. We all know MLB adopted the Dodgers as their new pet project, but the suspension should be what any other guy gets when charging the mound. It’s unfortunate, but it happens.

      • mailorderwife says:

        Throwing down one’s glove and uttering some provocative words does not make Greinke innocent. I know you’re a Dodgers fan, but he does bear some responsible here.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          Which I claimed he should bear in a post above.

          Throwing his glove and saying whatever he said doesn’t give Q any right to charge the mound and physically confront G.

          Q decided to make war come hell or high water, if he was beaned again.

          The physical aspect of this situ lays solely with Q. Or do you suppose the look in dudes’ eyes and his posture means that G should turn his back on him and not at least prepare for some act of violence? I’m being as impartial as I know how, and the ONLY person that starts this in a physical sense is Q. He takes his base and nothing further takes place and G is the guy in the wrong-all alone. That isn’t how it played out.

          • mailorderwife says:

            Greinke could have easily DONE NOTHING in order to diffuse the situation. Both are wrong here and reacted like typical dick wagging assholes.

            And here is WHY you diffuse the situation, both as a team and as owners:

            Los Angeles is flaming the fuel among its violent ass fan base. You think I’m lying? With the McCourts taking over LA and the absence of the Raiders, guess who decided to become rabid Dodger fans? I fucking live here and don’t want to see another Bryan Stow situation. Just let the fucking thing die.

            • Chico says:

              There are Dodger fans on Dodger blogs who were selling their tickets for Monday’s game out of fear.. That’s says a lot.

              • mailorderwife says:

                Yeesh. Yeah…I don’t say these things to exaggerate. I’ve gone to Raiders/ Chargers games down here where the violence began in the parking lot, with LA fans blocking spaces to prevent San Diegans from parking. Sometimes, people just want to see the bloody game, and nothing more.

              • sandy32koufax says:

                I wasn’t even aware of this entire thing in any sense until shaman texted something I found cryptic last nigh, which I didn’t even see until this morning. That said, NO ONE CHARGED Q, Q CHARGED THE MOUND THEN SIDESWIPED G. Game, set, match.

                In the eyes of the law, Q would be at fault.


                • mailorderwife says:

                  We’ll just agree to disagree, as we do not see eye to eye in this situation.

                  However, your assessment still does not address the general irresponsibility of the Dodger organization for fueling the flame, which seems to be a bigger issue for someone like me.

                • sandy32koufax says:

                  Sorry, I haven’t seen any of these inflammatory remarks or actions which you’re referring to.

                  I did see on ESPN some of Magics’ tweets and they seemed benign.

                  If LAD is doing anything to incite or rile the fan base then they should also have their corporate feet held to the fire. Good luck with the commishs’ office doing anything “right” though…

                • mailorderwife says:

                  As the SF Giants tweeted, it’ll be a test of character if either club retaliates when they meet on Jackie Robinson’s birthday. You only had to watch Twitter last night and this morning that WWIII of baseball is coming up. I’m sure it is a nice way to sell tickets, though.

                  Imagine the same thing happening between the Dodgers v. Giants, and the SF Giants fanning the flames of hatred and revenge. It would be stupid to send tweets such as GIANTS DON’T BACK DOWN, especially if your fan base is notorious for attacking opposing fans (which they apparently are, from reading news articles) while your superstar outfielder issues his own warning of WE’LL SEE, BITCH. The adult thing to do is to remind people of the beauty of the game, and let sleeping dogs lie.

  57. Chico says:

    I had my rally hat on!

  58. sandy32koufax says:


    The home plate ump SUCKS

  59. mailorderwife says:


  60. sandy32koufax says:

    segei romokovski is in

    done deal

  61. sandy32koufax says:


    Sweet jack

  62. Chico says:

    WOW, Romo gives up a home run.. Tie game.

  63. sandy32koufax says:

    Sweet ending Cubbies fans

  64. datswhatsup says:


    You’re at the pub, it’s crazy crowded so you are standing behind the stools in a walk way.

    Dude accidentally elbows you in the side of the head. You are in the isle but it still cheeses you off. You don’t know if he did it on purpose or not but he had elbowed you twice before in the past.

    You’re pissed and when you glare a WTF at him he calls you a punk.

    That’s when you’d walk away?

    Me thinks not.

    • sandy32koufax says:

      Think again then because those are apples n oranges, dats.

      I’m in a pub, not the batters’ box.

      Besides, as flat as my learning curve is I’ve lived long enough to know better than to get into it in bars anymore.

      Seriously. I don’t want or need the trouble that comes with that crap.

      • datswhatsup says:

        Ok Mr. Literal how ’bout this (then I’m done)

        YOU accidentally hit/bump a guy
        The guy looks at you all pissed off
        You then call him a punk
        Scuffle ensues

        That’s 100% the other guys fault?

        • sandy32koufax says:

          I’ve never said this SITUATION was 100% Qs’ fault.

          That he decided to charge the mound and make contact with G is absolutely his choice.

          Look, for reasons I’d rather not go into, I know what constitutes “wrong” in situations of this nature. Because he himself said things which he then felt required him to back them up (go after G when G HBP’d him) he makes this HIS problem. There is NO excuse or reason for people to thump on each other-and ya, it took years for me to figure that out.

          Self defense or the aid of another being the sole exceptions in my mind.

  65. shaman138 says:

    Blown save by Romo. Damnit. Those Cubbers just had our number today.Such is baseball.

  66. xoot says:

    Taking the lead top of the 9th and then giving up a walkoff double in the bottom is a terrible way to lose. But these guys are battling at the plate. They’ll bounce back tomorrow. I think someone should send this (or, if you can find a better clip of the event, then that) to AJ Ellis:

  67. mailorderwife says:

    This guy just gets better and better: Rodriguez Believed to Be Behind Purchase of Clinic Documents.

  68. JDR says:

    Well, that was a heck of a comeback the Giants staged yesterday to pull out the win. It’s too bad today’s game got cancelled and was never played. Because that’s exactly what happened. Game was cancelled and never played. Yep.

  69. filthychangeup says:

    Losing is never fun but I’m glad the game ended with Romo and not another frustrating Belt AB. Belt’s double was definitely the silver lining. Besides, it was a matter of time before law of averages caught up with Romo.

    • datswhatsup says:

      Romo’s struggle as a closer will be versus LH hitters.

      That filthy (intended) frisbee slider that seems to break 2 feet cannot be used on LH,

      I think that’s why 97mph is the tool of most closers

  70. mailorderwife says:

    Has anyone here tried poutine? My friend just came back from Canada and says it is good, but he’s used to food in Orange County (which is sheet).

    • sandy32koufax says:

      “Good” is a subjective term in this case. If you enjoy Paula Deen gravy on top of a goulash of cubed taters with onion, bell pepper and any meat product, then you’ll love it too.

      Don’t get me wrong, the poutine I’ve had tasted hearty. It was filling. Reminded me to hit the rowing machine or go for a jog. And I’d eat it again, just not by choice. Think of KFCs’ “Double Down” with gravy n taters…

  71. sandy32koufax says:

    Pedro Guerrero is the manager of the fledging Vallejo Admirals of the PCL.
    A team without a roster, as of yet…

    On another note, I’m headed to wine country with a gaggle of jints/warriors fans. Hoo Ha, at least I’ll be able to drown my beisbol n hoops injury sorrows in “red, red wine…”

  72. Chico says:

    Lucky you, my whole family is sick.y daughter has been coughing through the night the past three nights. Part of life but sucks

  73. Chico says:

    Posey drilled in consecutive days.

  74. mailorderwife says:

    I was under the impression that the Cubs had sell-outs, or near sell-outs, at every game. Maybe that was just something I imagined after watching Ferris Bueller? Maybe it’s just the weather that is keeping them away. However, I do like those little blue cubbie hats.

  75. xoot says:

    Tough call on Torres, but he didn’t do much in that AB. One foul ball. Wish they’d bust this one open.

  76. mailorderwife says:

    Ahhh…the Cubs…

  77. Chico says:

    Scoots is definitely out of his slump..

  78. xoot says:

    Man, the Giants don’t look like they want to be on that field right now. What a miserable game this has turned into. Come on! Shut em down.

  79. xoot says:

    Holy shit, Casilla’s breaking ball broke Clevenger’s back.

    • Chico says:

      Oblique? Dude was in some serious pain…

      A win is a win! I’m willing to be the Giants can’t wait to get the hell out of Chicago.. Miserable baseball conditions.

  80. mailorderwife says:

    As of 8:43 p.m. on 4/13, the SF Chronicle pay site had not listed Schulman’s article on today’s Giants/Cubs game in the Giants section. The top headline story is still from Thursday’s game. Meanwhile, the A’s section is fully updated. Are these people serious about charging people money?

  81. xoot says:

    From about an hour ago:

    Andrew Baggarly‏@CSNBaggs53m
    True story: I’m waiting to talk to Buster Posey but he’s chilling with Lincecum right now, smiling and laughing.

  82. mailorderwife says:

    Timmy already rotten.

  83. xoot says:

    Nice play Blanco~!

  84. mailorderwife says:

    Affail :<

  85. JDR says:

    Well, that was less than ….HOLY SHIT! PENCE!

  86. sandy32koufax says:

    Hey crowd.

    Just got to my keyboard. In fact I only got out of bed about an hour ago, that’s how much fun my friends and I had yesterday and last night.

    Damn Cubbies…

  87. mailorderwife says:

    Pence is a good sport to be okay with Reverend Underpants. Love the guy. Great off season work ethic may be worth giving him a longer contract.

  88. JDR says:

    Dodgers lose 1-0? GET MORE GROPPA!

    • mailorderwife says:

      Oh yes…that is the TOP story in the SF Chron Giants section. It reads like something from Bleacher Report, only worse. However, it is worded to invite…contributions. You think they feel the reduction of comments in some certain areas?

    • xoot says:

      What crap. It’s interesting to see a few of the writers, Henry and Killjoy in particular, deliberately making their pay-only stories available for free with twitter links, etc. Wonder if they have discretion to do so? Those stories still won’t get the hits sfgate free blogs and stories used to get. The site and the paper are sinking slow. Amazing phenomenon to observe. . . .

    • mailorderwife says:

      Why doesn’t the NRA ever boast of the number of suicide victims it arms?

      • Chico says:

        I just saw John Kerry on CNN. He’s in Japan and said that after talking to some people, some Japanese parents are scared to send their kids here to study out of fear of gun violence. That’s pretty much what my cousins in Spain and Chile think.

  89. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, it’s funny when you try to tell certain someones that for every crime a private citizen stops because he or she had a gun, there are 400-500 accidental deaths or suicides with said guns, not to even mention the murders.

  90. filthychangeup says:

    Justin Bieber tours Anne Franks house and signs the guest book as follows: “Truly inspiring to be able to come here. Anne was a great girl. Hopefully she would have been a belieber…”

    Is there a bigger tool in America? I think not. Sorry, this is what happens when there’s no Giants baseball, severe withdrawal.

    • mailorderwife says:

      As much as I want to love Canada for creating hockey, it’s their contribution of Anne Murray, Nickelback and Justin Bieber that bring about a slow rage.

    • Chico says:

      What a disgrace. That kid has to be on drugs, right?

      • filthychangeup says:

        Good call on Nickleback, MOW, my friend’s GF put it best, when Chad Kroeger “sings” it’s like STDs are coming out of his mouth. Chico, yeah Bieber is high from the smell of his own shit, I doubt anyone could be more in lover with her/himself.

    • JDR says:

      That’s outrageous. I think we can all agree that Anne would have preferred the cool, soothing tones of Mumford and Sons.

  91. Chico says:

    Sports related, two explosions at the Boston marathon? I’m really really hoping that they were underground/infrastructure problems or maybe generators..

    • mailorderwife says:

      I believe they found an exploded device, along with another unexploded one in front of Boston’s Mandarin Hotel.

      Live by the sword, die by the sword. So sick of it.

      • Chico says:

        CNN hasn’t reported on that, but that’s not saying much since it’s CNN..

        • mailorderwife says:

          Might want to follow the news on twitter. It’s faster than network TV, since there are no makeup breaks. Of course, you have to separate the weed from the chaff as there are lots of inaccuracies.

  92. unca_chuck says:

    Yup. 2 dead, over 100 injured. Homemade devices. Stupid fucking people. They are talking about cancelling the Celtics game tonight, but I’d lay good money that doesn’t happen.

    Here’s something from someone’s phone.


  93. Chico says:

    I just keep getting MORE horrible news from family members that are either sick or just found out that they are sick. The assholes who set those bombs off killed an 8 year old child.. Life is really tough for a lot of people right now.. So I’m just going to post photos that a friend of mine takes and hope you all enjoy them. Overwhelmed right now.

  94. Chico says:

    This one is for you old school SF’ers. Enjoy.

    • mailorderwife says:

      FOX news and Michelle Malkin reported earlier that a Saudi national was a suspect. This has been denied by the police…as if we needed more proof that FOX was just irresponsible fearmongers.

      But what if, say, Afghanis bombed us. We are at war with them. Would that be considered terrorism, or just part of the war? I know everyone all #prayforBoston, but can’t we just be more thoughtful about what we do rather than ask God for more favors?

      • sandy32koufax says:

        For every “Breaking News” story and the ensuing coverage either online or that being reported via traditional media outlets, I’ve learned that those sources seem to engage in rumor mongering more than actual reporting of known facts. Think of Japan after the quake and tsunami or Gabby Giffords as examples of this.

        Cool pix Chico-noticed that there’s no Chron paper-box in the Red’s shot :-O

        • unca_chuck says:

          It’s under the rocks in the previous shot . . .

        • mailorderwife says:

          I found out about the earthquake from Japanese bloggers on Twitter. I remember immediately turning on CNN, and they were airing the tsunami as it happened. However, the CNN broadcaster informed the viewers that the tsunami was taking place in Tokyo. I was absolutely hysterical, desperately trying to get hold of my family. It was something like 15 minutes later that CNN backtracked and said that we were watching live tsunami coverage in Iwate.

          There is no accountability in broadcast journalism these days. NY Post is still sticking to its Saudi story, while tin foil wearer Alex Jones is persisting with some pretty rotten speculation veiled as truth.

          • Chico says:

            I remember that. I also remember the radiation expert they had on later turned out to be someone who wasn’t qualified to discuss that topic as he worked in a different field.. ALL major TV news networks are a joke.

  95. unca_chuck says:

    Yeah, with everyone trying to beat the others to the punch, everything gets reported as fact until it isn’t.

  96. sandy32koufax says:

    It’s unsettling how we have become hardened to these acts of violence.

    Even more unnerving is that blame for “allowing” such acts is now a sport for pundits, pols and plain people.

    Ya, “One nation under God…” seems to mean bupkis anymore…

    • Chico says:

      I was listening to 560 am and it happened to be Hannity on. . . ‘our next guests will be joining us after the break.. Stay tuned for Mark Furmond, Ollie North and g Gordon Liddy’

      A known racist hack, a felon and another person who should be behind bars…

      There were his so called ‘experts’ about the bombing in Boston.. Facepalm.

  97. datswhatsup says:

    Time for some levity yet?

    I am sure many of you have been patiently waiting for my top 3 Green with Envy Posts from across the web. As you all know I scour the web looking for the top 3 posts that best respresent anti-Giant fans envy of baseball’s greatest team…

    Coming in at #3: Good ol WBB’s multiple comments on MTSI blog chronicling the Giants Bullpen meltdown versus the Cubbies only to go stone silent as Pence and Pals tie and win the game while the boys in blue cough up wins to AZ & the Mighty Pads

    Our #2 winner(?): The Dumbeat’s very own Mossy points out in a “Germans bombed Pearl Harbor sort of way” that lowly Houston proves the AL superiority since they were a playoff team in the NL (“hey wasn’t that in 2005?”, “never mind he’s on a roll”) but doormats in the AL

    But it all pales in comparison to this week’s (weak’s?) champ (chump?) the Dumbeat’s own fishnanoprobewrap. It a never before departure from any semblance of logic dropped a gem about how the aaa’s are better than Detroit because if it wasn’t for Verlander & Sherzer they’d be just a .500 team. Yeah, I know, that just happened.

    In related stories the Trekie also stated the Warriors are better than the Heat because without Labron & Wade the Heat are really a sub .500 team.

    Branching into the world of entertainment NanoNutts also opined that Steve Martin’s movie the Man with Two Brains was as good as the Godfather if you took away Brando and Paccino.

    ahhhhhh hahahaha

    • mailorderwife says:

      Wonderful! Thank you. And did someone really say that The Man With Two Brains comment?

    • xoot says:

      Tell those asswipes on the beat they’re keeping us laughing. Maybe ask them if their Cespedes bobbleheads have all broken yet.

    • Chico says:

      Mossbax 12:34 AM on April 16, 2013
      In the NL, the Astros were a pennant winner, but in the AL they’re a patsy that only beats the Mariners.

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      sneekk 12:36 AM on April 16, 2013
      Pennant winner in ancient history (2005)…

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      Mossbax 1:07 AM on April 16, 2013
      Carlos Beltran and Andy Pettite don’t think it’s ancient history.

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      Mossbax is an idiot.

      • datswhatsup says:

        an old man I once told me there are no “Giants” without the “Dodgers” because the rivalry is so great. He would say imagine a season of playing the Brewers, Cubs, Astros & Padres.

        The aaa’s now have to bet on the sure thing, hating the Giants because they have made the aaa’s a punchline in mlb.

        What really gets the aaa’s goat is that the Giants don’t need the aaa’s one bit. Their not important enough.

        However the old man did discount the entertainment value of reading aaa’s pathetic attempts to make their team relevant again…good stuff

  98. Chico says:

    Happy birthday Skipper!

  99. filthychangeup says:


    Not sure which is funnier, the piss-poor writing in this ‘article’ or the idignation of the AAA’s fans in the comments.

  100. Chico says:

    RIP Pat Summerall..

  101. Chico says:

    Wake up folks! We have a game!

  102. sandy32koufax says:

    Aioki rocks…


  103. Chico says:

    Fucking hilarious!

    An old high school buddy of mine posted a pic of him smelling a weed plant (buds everywhere).. His strict ass mother comments on it (very religious filipinos)

    ‘Jacob if this is what I think! Im disappoint!!!

    Jake – ‘Dont trip, im not doing anything lol’

    Mom – Here ! I got home from dentist which my whole mouth sore I have 5 tooth extracts for implant! Come home seeing u kissing the damn thing!!

    Jake – ‘Im not kissing it lol, just smelling it.’

    Mom – ‘Don’t be funny this is your mom! I am high with vicoden’

    My reply – LOL! Comedy gold!

    • mailorderwife says:

      LOL. Reminds me of the time my friend left a whole bunch of hash brownies at my home. My mother brought it to work, and both her and the boss got really really stoned. I just remember my mom calling me in NY and yelling at me, because the patrons were wondering why the whole restaurant staff (all over 50 and small, Japanese) could not stop laughing.

  104. sandy32koufax says:

    Hey Dowdy peoples!

    Just got in, a nice short day for sfgf.

    Really US senators?

    Oh well, back to the old drawing board I guess…

    • Chico says:

      Even the background check failed the senate.. In Germany, they like brats & beer. In Peru they like pisco sours & sangria. In Brazil they like beaches & soccer. In England they like drinking and soccer. Here, we like our guns..

      It’s a fucking sick fetish.

      • mailorderwife says:

        Sarah Palin tweeted her approval, as do all my pro-life friends.

        • sandy32koufax says:

          “Good Americans” like SP embarrass me.

          That embarrassment is exponentially worse when I’m with friends from another country.

          On a par with Dub…

  105. unca_chuck says:

    Them Dems like them guns as well . . . . . .

  106. Chico says:

    Yep, them blue dog dems are just as guilty. I’m a moderate dem, but this gun issue makes me feel more like a progressive, which I’m not..

    90% of the American public is for more extensive background checks. It looks like the NRA got into some people’s pockets, again.

  107. sandy32koufax says:

    Where do I find the vote on the background check bill that the senate just said NO! to?

  108. mailorderwife says:

    Baseball love love

  109. sandy32koufax says:

    We have a game going here, kids…where did y’all get to?

    • shaman138 says:

      Uh, with the lowly Brewers dominating and Kyle Fucking Loshe throwing a goddamn nono, there’s not much of a game going on at all. Well, the Royals shut out the Braves today and the Pirates are crushing it–just one of those days, I guess.

  110. Chico says:

    That sucked

  111. unca_chuck says:

    The Dubs keep the 6th spot in the playoffs. The Flakers trying to take the 7th spot from the Rockets. Gonna be a tough row to hoe for the Warriors to beat Denver as the road dog, but hey, it could happen. . . .

  112. unca_chuck says:

    I really thought the Grienke thing would galvanize the Dodgers, but it sure looks like it jacked up the Padres. At least for this series. Dogs are 1-5 since the fracas. SD’s about to sweep. Speaking of fracas. Chris Capuano’s DL stint is being blamed on the fight . . . .

  113. mailorderwife says:

    Cainer :<

    • shaman138 says:

      Theyre shitting the bed right now. Cain is just horrible right now. The falling off of our once dominant rotation has been unbelievable

  114. xoot says:

    Finish April at .500 or above, and things’ll be ok, so long as the pitchers come around.

  115. Chico says:

    7-1, WTF…

  116. JDR says:

    The whining over on the dumbeat is pretty hilarious right now. You’d think they would enjoy getting a sweep, but alas…

  117. xoot says:

    the fools still posting on the dumbeat are talking to themselves. I hear one of them tried to link the 2005 Astros to the current team. You’d think the guy would look at the payroll numbers or something to see if the argument would make him look like a jerk. but no. Just put the stupidity out there. Hell, it’s only the dumbeat. Who cares? Constant sniping at the Giants is pretty self-condemning, too. I’ll bet the most pathetic of that bunch spends a lot of time kissing the “lip” of his souvenir bat while he prays for the Giants to lose.

    • JDR says:

      That same year the Rays lost 97 games. So it goes to reason that oakland fans should expect an easy sweep in Tampa this weekend.

  118. unca_chuck says:

    Sheesh. just get the hell out of Wisconsin.

  119. xoot says:

    April sometimes sucks. 30 degree games in Colo.; snow at Wrigley; a closed stadium in Milwaukee. The Giants come home now to something more like baseball weather. And it’s home.

    Meanwhile, one poet’s melancholy view of April, and another’s update:

    April is the cruellest month, breeding
    Lilacs out of the dead land, mixing
    Memory and desire, stirring
    Dull roots with spring rain.

    The update: http://tinyurl.com/cxoj5wj

    • mailorderwife says:

      Love T.S. Elliot.

      He would also appreciate that it’s just April, too early to worry about much.

      As for me, I’m jaded after years of Giants baseball. As long as the Dodgers are losing, I’m a-okay.

  120. filthychangeup says:

    It may only be April but the stupidity on the Flush and Dumbeat is off the charts. I hope the Giants do some serious rebounding tomorrow night.

  121. Chico says:

    So my Imac starts going ape-shit after I posted the comment above.. Get an APPT at the Apple store @ 2:30 – I’m thinking its going to cost at least 100 bucks — nope, they fixed it (turned out to be the keyboard), free of charge because I bought the Apple care warranty almost FOUR years ago.. Exiting the mall, I walk by the Giants dugout, and end up spending $$140 on a Giants jacket.

    • mailorderwife says:

      Sweet jacket!!!

    • datswhatsup says:

      Weird I went by the aaa’s store in an abandoned Alameda phone booth (my car broke down) and spent some dough on aaa’s gear from the Titles.

      I am rocking green and gold platform shoes (’72), green super bell velvet pants (’73), glue on moustache (’74) and a t-shirt with an asterisk (’89).

      I also landed a pair of binoculars that they use to see what a real team and fan base looks like.

  122. xoot says:

    Chechnya. I recently read a fairly entertaining novel about a Ukrainian who ends up working in the Chechen wilderness at a strangely busy crematorium. The dark humor seems a lot darker now. Penguin Lost, by Andrey Kurkov. One of the goddamned Boston bombers was a smart, competent kid. Un eff’ing believable.

  123. Chico says:

    Mousebucks and his minions are pathetic. Analprobe is throwing around PED accusations. When someone calls him out on the A’s re-signing Colon, he runs.

    Your payroll is never going to up guys — direct your anger towards your carpetbagging pathetic owner. Ya’ll are being played!

  124. mailorderwife says:

    AT&T looks sort of empty at game time. Is that the security thing?

  125. mailorderwife says:

    We So Cal folks have been relegated to watching the Poodres broadcast of tonight’s game, which isn’t too bad as they have a nice tandem and a better Amy G. So in pushing future Poodre games, they said something about how AT&T Park was always sold out, so the most relaxing way for Giants or Padres fans to see their team of choice was to take a quick plane ride down to SD to see a game at Petco.

  126. Chico says:

    Josh Reddick = Pussy.

  127. Chico says:

    Walk off! Cheers!

  128. JDR says:

    Ballgame! Torres redeems himself for the pitiful bunt with the steal and winning run. Pablo damn near knocked Pagan into right field with the celebration.

  129. shaman138 says:

    Nice win! Burrrrrrrrrrrrp! This Racer’s for you!

  130. JDR says:

    Heading to the game today, hope Good Timmy shows up.

    • Chico says:

      It’s 4:20

      I feel good about today’s game. The Dodgers just blew it in Baltimore.

      • mailorderwife says:

        Really hate the modern “doubleheader”. The old doubleheaders were one of the best things about baseball, and I used to go to every one of those games. Twilight DHs at Candlestick were a HOOT out in the bleachers, especially when it was half price night.

        That being said, 4:20 = Timmy Day!

        • Chico says:

          I loved the traditional double headers.. I was really young but remember going to them with my dad.. I also liked them in little league and Joe D league..

          ‘I got six hits today’ – ‘how did you do that’? 😉

  131. xoot says:

    Big story of the night: Buster’s catching Lincecum? Give me a break. Reddick’s makeover is much more entertaining.

    • Chico says:


    • xoot says:

      Lincecum was great until the 7th, but even then he wasn’t bad. First 6, he kept the ball at the knees a lot and bounced nothing. The movement was terrific; Posey’s only bad chance was on a foul ball. In the 7th, though, Lincecum started bouncing pitches as he tried to keep them down. He probably could’ve finished the inning, but Bochy’s decision to pull him with 2 outs made sense. Overall, a very good game for The Freak. He truly earned his 6 2/3 scoreless IP.

  132. sandy32koufax says:

    jints looked good.

    SOS style too…

    Congrats, jDowders.

  133. Chico says:

    Ballgame! Cheers!

  134. JDR says:

    Whew. Got back from the park and all cleaned up. Missed the ferry home (note: don’t miss the ferry home, it sucks) but otherwise had a great time. Still, hell of a game. Timmy was great, looked like his old self. Pablo crushed one and we all sang “Sweet Caroline” in the 8th while the scoreboard showed all the Boston support signs people brought. Great day at the ballpark.

    • Chico says:

      I’m guessing you had to BART it home, or that dreaded $50 dollar taxi ride back to the east bay. I LOVE the east bay, but I don’t miss those expensive taxi rides.. Glad you had a good time dude — and nice pic from the ballpark!

      • shaman138 says:

        There was a time when I was “living” in San Mateo while my entire life was up here in the city. I had to endure a few of those cab rides myself when there was no other way home. Seriously, I would spend almost the entire amount of a Muni FastPass just for one ride home if I missed the last CalTrain. Truly craptacular. It’s almost as bad as watching a Baltimore Orioles game if you’re a Dodger fan….

        • Chico says:

          Done that a couple of times too. The idea is to park at Colma, and sober up by the time you get to the Colma station 😉 Then convince yourself that ‘yer good to go’!

        • sandy32koufax says:

          There is a real need for expanded ferry service, extending the BART lines to service the majority of the bay area (fuck high-speed rail and the boondoggle into Chinatown) instead of mainly covering part of the peninsula and most of the east bay Not just for drunks like you guys, but tourists and others that don’t live in a given area but are spending MONEY in those locales. Costly? Yes. Needed and long overdue? Also yes. Friggin Genentech has a virtually private, mostly govt subsidized ferry line of it’s own in South City. Score one for those people known as corporations.

          Bad day yesterday shaman? Come on buddy, hair o the dog n alla that. I believe the word you’re trying to elicit is “Whoreioles.”

          • mailorderwife says:

            Sorry…NEED high speed rail. If you want an economic boost to this state and would like to see smaller towns do well, high speed rail is key. So many places are inaccessible unless you go by slow ass Amtrak (Santa Barbara, San Luis Obispo, areas in the Central Valley), and their economics would boom if people could get their by reliable, fast rail. The SF = LA corridor would do SO well, and would be a favorite among tourists. (Not every country in the world drives drives drives). I’ve seen Japan just boom under the bullet train, as it now connects the main Honshu to Kyushu and Shikoku. The only unconnected corridor would be to Hokkaido, an island which seems pretty obsolete compared to the rest of the bullet connected Japan.

            I’ve also ridden the high speed rail throughout Europe. Amazing stuff.

            Makes you realize how ass backwards this country is when it comes to trains and transport — local service and across the continent. If you’ve ever ridden on an non-American airliner, you will easily see how we even fuck that up pretty well. It’s no surprise that Virgin America is #1 in this country since it gets its mojo from the awesome Virgin Atlantic.

          • shaman138 says:

            “Drunks like you guys”,……..Surrrre, buddy.

          • xoot says:

            The HSR project is going to put many thousands of people to work for the next decade or so. I know a lot about one of those cases that settled recently, so that the construction can begin this summer. It’s going to be impressive. There will be a RR “wye” in the valley, a sort of central hub, where all trains from the south and from SF and Sacatomatoes will swing through. As one brief explained:

            “All trains running on the system will converge and then diverge at the wye, speeding through at between 150 and 220 mph. [EIR at 164] Some trains will be 660 feet long; others will be twice that length—i.e., a full ¼ mile long. [EIR at 157] The EIR’s “Service Plan” estimates that by 2035, when the system is fully operational, the three-hour peak morning and late-afternoon periods will see twenty-two such trains per hour (eleven in each direction) running between San Francisco or Sacramento to the north and Los Angeles to the south—as well as four trains per hour (two in each direction) between San Francisco and Sacramento. [EIR at 2623-24] Thus, during the six-hours of daily peak time, a total of one hundred and fifty-six trains will speed through the wye. That is an average of one speeding train every 2 minutes and 18 seconds. (This is a simple average. In actual operation, multiple trains headed for different cities probably will pass through the wye simultaneously, and that combined impact will be even larger.) In off-peak hours, sixteen trains per hour will speed through the wye. [Id.] That is still one train every 3 minutes and 45 seconds.”

            Interested now?

            • mailorderwife says:

              That will be awesome. After being a season ticket holder for 15+ years, I’ll finally be able to use them. Let’s all have some beers!

              BTW..haven’t heard Sacratomato in a long time! That’s an old KFRC/Dr. Don Rose reference. So old school.

      • JDR says:

        Caught Bart back over then took a cab to get the car at the ferry station. Girlfriend had an early flight this morning and was not particularly happy. Looks like I’ll be spending the next few weekends on nature hikes.

        Surprised to see the aaa’s struggling in Tampa. You’d think they would feel right at home in that half-empty ballpark.

        • xoot says:

          The A’s struggle without Cespedes.

        • mailorderwife says:

          Hahaha to the ballpark reference.

          • sandy32koufax says:

            Hey, I’m a supporter of HSR but damn if we weren’t supposed to see BART at least circling the bay through the south bay too by the 80’s. Never happened and still isn’t completed.

            As for the jobs that the project will create and how towns such as Shafter, Delano or even the beautiful Oildale go-we’ll see. I’ve ridden the chunnel and HSR Euro but have never been to Japan so have no reference for understanding per my own experience there. I’ve heard what your saying from many people though re bullet trains transforming economic situations along it’s path. Not unlike the way Smallville was changed by the advent of RR’s across the US starting in the 1880’s.

            Zits looked good today. jints bats took off too.

            Guess Chico saved some mega kale on that Zito jack though…

  135. shaman138 says:

    Amazing how much better Lincecum is when Buster is catching him. Coincidence? I think not, BUT…I still think he needs to go the Eckersley route. His starting days are behind him, IMO.

  136. mailorderwife says:

    Poor Sergio Romo

  137. xoot says:

    Good Zito showed up to start today. Let’s see how he does the second time through the order.

  138. xoot says:

    Great call to give Pagan the green light there.

  139. xoot says:

    What a great 7 IP from Zito.

  140. Chico says:


  141. JDR says:

    Sweep! And a new post!

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